How long is your class time? We practice for 2 hours and I think that is too long. I feel like I can get alot more accomplished as far as training goes in an hour. I would like to hear other folks comments as well.
Thanks,
Tony
Duration of class times: What's best? 1, 1.5 or 2 hours?
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f.Channell
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Duration of class times: What's best? 1, 1.5 or 2 hours?
Tony,
I like 1.5 hours. This gives you more time to warm up, condition and do some material.
This seems to be old school Uechi, with the norm now being 1 hour.
If your training 1-2 times a week 2 hours is probably needed to get it all in.
3-4 classes 1 hour a week you can get it all in, but I still think stretching and conditioning is neglected.
fred
I like 1.5 hours. This gives you more time to warm up, condition and do some material.
This seems to be old school Uechi, with the norm now being 1 hour.
If your training 1-2 times a week 2 hours is probably needed to get it all in.
3-4 classes 1 hour a week you can get it all in, but I still think stretching and conditioning is neglected.
fred
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Tony-San
Duration of class times: What's best? 1, 1.5 or 2 hours?
Good point Fred. But what if folks showed up 15 minutes early and stretched before getting into an intense hour of karate?
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Glenn
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The problem is if it is not part of class students won't do it, and related injuries could increase. The class I'm in is two hours twice a week, with the first hour usually being health oriented with warm-ups, strengthening, conditioning, and stretching, and the second hour being karate technique. We prefer that as it gets everyone, instructor included, to actually do the exercises that help the body to be able to do the karate without tearing itself up.Good point Fred. But what if folks showed up 15 minutes early and stretched before getting into an intense hour of karate?
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Tony-San
Duration of class times: What's best? 1, 1.5 or 2 hours?
Glenn, question.... do you find that some students are bored with a 2 hour workout and quit?
Duration of class times: What's best? 1, 1.5 or 2 hours?
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We have our share of turnover, but I've never heard that the length of class is a factor. But Dave isn't dictatorial about students only being able to show up when class is scheduled to start and can only leave after class is scheduled to end...he is very accomodating of conflicting schedules. He also tries to keep the workout varied enough to keep it from getting boring...to be honest, the 2 hours just fly by.
If anything the time of the class is more of a factor for students not staying with it than the length of class. Class runs from 7:00-9:00pm, which gets late. But then again Dave also frequently teaches kobudo after that from 9:00-10:00pm, and has a fair number of students attend all 3 hours. At any rate, I really don't think length of class is that much of factor.
The thing to keep in mind with this class in terms of turnover is that even though we are no longer a community college course (as we use to be), Dave still teaches it on a quarterly schedule...i.e., students sign up for a 10-11 week quarter at a time. As a result, we get quite a few students who sign up for a quarter to try it out and then don't return for whatever reason. I would say that accounts for most of our turnover.
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Glenn
Glenn, question.... do you find that some students are bored with a 2 hour workout and quit?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
We have our share of turnover, but I've never heard that the length of class is a factor. But Dave isn't dictatorial about students only being able to show up when class is scheduled to start and can only leave after class is scheduled to end...he is very accomodating of conflicting schedules. He also tries to keep the workout varied enough to keep it from getting boring...to be honest, the 2 hours just fly by.
If anything the time of the class is more of a factor for students not staying with it than the length of class. Class runs from 7:00-9:00pm, which gets late. But then again Dave also frequently teaches kobudo after that from 9:00-10:00pm, and has a fair number of students attend all 3 hours. At any rate, I really don't think length of class is that much of factor.
The thing to keep in mind with this class in terms of turnover is that even though we are no longer a community college course (as we use to be), Dave still teaches it on a quarterly schedule...i.e., students sign up for a 10-11 week quarter at a time. As a result, we get quite a few students who sign up for a quarter to try it out and then don't return for whatever reason. I would say that accounts for most of our turnover.
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Glenn
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Bill Glasheen
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Duration of class times: What's best? 1, 1.5 or 2 hours?
I think it all depends on the group you are working out with.
If you are teaching in the suburbs, an hour class seems like the norm. You have to pack it all in within the tight time slot, and move 'em on out.
In my mind, 2 hours is ideal. But if you do a class that long, I think you need to spend part of the time busting their butts (like the typical 1-hour cram session) and then the next hour patiently working on form. That seems to work best.
The problem with 2-hour classes is that it's easy to develop a lazy pace and get no more accomplished than you would in an hour session. (I've been guilty as charged.) One must take care to use time wisely. Planning what you want to get done before walking in the door helps.
- Bill
If you are teaching in the suburbs, an hour class seems like the norm. You have to pack it all in within the tight time slot, and move 'em on out.
In my mind, 2 hours is ideal. But if you do a class that long, I think you need to spend part of the time busting their butts (like the typical 1-hour cram session) and then the next hour patiently working on form. That seems to work best.
The problem with 2-hour classes is that it's easy to develop a lazy pace and get no more accomplished than you would in an hour session. (I've been guilty as charged.) One must take care to use time wisely. Planning what you want to get done before walking in the door helps.
- Bill
Duration of class times: What's best? 1, 1.5 or 2 hours?
Beginners class (T, F) is 1.5 hours, including stretching and conditioning. Intermediate and advanced classes (M, W, Th)were 1 or 1.5 hours, alternating weekly without stretching and conditioning. The beginners were showing better conditioning, so a new format was adopted. Int. and Adv. classes are now 1 hour each, in between is a 1/2 hour conditioning class with both groups consisting of calisthenics, bag work, sparring, station training, etc. We still stretch on our own. This has been going for about a year with significant improvement in overall fitness.
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Mark
Duration of class times: What's best? 1, 1.5 or 2 hours?
Unless it is a specialty class such as a seminar, 1.5 hours seems ideal for students and instructora at our dojo. A few hang around after for half hour to work out informally.
Duration of class times: What's best? 1, 1.5 or 2 hours?
Our classes are 6:30 to 9:00-plus twice a week, of which I take one only due to work/schedule. We're expected to do our own "roadwork"; our classes are pure Uechi Ryu only. No aerobics, etc.
We are a small semi-private group also;4 to 7 students per class typically, all Brown/Black belts except me of course.
The classes don't seem that long but we're usually pooped when we're done because designated attack/defense sparring is last.
We're also expected to do "homework". NM
We are a small semi-private group also;4 to 7 students per class typically, all Brown/Black belts except me of course.
The classes don't seem that long but we're usually pooped when we're done because designated attack/defense sparring is last.
We're also expected to do "homework". NM
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Tony-San
Duration of class times: What's best? 1, 1.5 or 2 hours?
Hmmm..interesting... I was thinking of trying out 1 hour classes but i'm not so sure it will be a good idea. Either way is fine with me, i'm a dedicated Uechi guy, but i'm not sure the other students like getting home at 8:30 or 9pm after karate.
Duration of class times: What's best? 1, 1.5 or 2 hours?
Tony-San:
I think it has to be geared toward the type of class you have, who's involved, age level, rank or amount of learning-thirst of the participants.
I have a feeling that young students can't focus for too long and old students can't hold out too long.
However, older students can probably benefit from longer, more thorough classes which cover finer points, and don't need 5-minute changes of topic to sustain interest like 15-year olds do.
15 -year olds need lots of quick-paced challenge and FUN (there's that word again) to maintain interest.
So, the answer is in the mix. (?) NM
I think it has to be geared toward the type of class you have, who's involved, age level, rank or amount of learning-thirst of the participants.
I have a feeling that young students can't focus for too long and old students can't hold out too long.
However, older students can probably benefit from longer, more thorough classes which cover finer points, and don't need 5-minute changes of topic to sustain interest like 15-year olds do.
15 -year olds need lots of quick-paced challenge and FUN (there's that word again) to maintain interest.
So, the answer is in the mix. (?) NM
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Ted Dinwiddie
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Duration of class times: What's best? 1, 1.5 or 2 hours?
In my opinion, class length and time are dependent on what works for the most people involved. Spend class time covering the material people are expected to know for their advancement and make those requirements realistic and valuable.
If the only practice/exercise/workout time one gets is class time then they are not in the game at all. Personal practice and conditioning are mandatory. They make class time more effective, for one. A true MA, in my book, lives it. Newbies may take a while to get into the swing, but it should be understood that progress is made because of the time spent working on what has been taught in class on your own.
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ted
"I learn by going where I have to go." - Theodore Roethke
If the only practice/exercise/workout time one gets is class time then they are not in the game at all. Personal practice and conditioning are mandatory. They make class time more effective, for one. A true MA, in my book, lives it. Newbies may take a while to get into the swing, but it should be understood that progress is made because of the time spent working on what has been taught in class on your own.
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ted
"I learn by going where I have to go." - Theodore Roethke
Duration of class times: What's best? 1, 1.5 or 2 hours?
Hi Tony.
Juat a little more to add.
My classes vary from 1 to 1.5 hours per session depending upon what I want to cover for the night and the energy of my students, all mid-range adults. Occasionally, but not often, I've wrapped things up in as little as 45 minutes. No two of my classes are the same although they are intent with focused short, mid, and long-term goals that are adhered to.
Most people don't want to go a full two hours.
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Allen Moulton from Uechi-ryu Etcetera
Juat a little more to add.
My classes vary from 1 to 1.5 hours per session depending upon what I want to cover for the night and the energy of my students, all mid-range adults. Occasionally, but not often, I've wrapped things up in as little as 45 minutes. No two of my classes are the same although they are intent with focused short, mid, and long-term goals that are adhered to.
Most people don't want to go a full two hours.
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Allen Moulton from Uechi-ryu Etcetera
