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Bill Glasheen
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Where do I begin?

Sometimes holidays and remembrances are helpful; sometimes they are more trouble than they are worth. I am left today (September 11) worse than I was a week ago.

Let me start here. Sunday morning in Richmond, the major networks are inundated with the god squad. If you are up early enough, you even get to see faith healers at work. Praise the Lord, and pass the collection plate. The local NBC affiliate has Dr. James Kennedy (presumably a doctorate in religion or something) and his nationally syndicated program. Reverend Kennedy is one of those folks like Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson who feels it's his Christian duty to make this a better country by having us all believe in his god and sharing his political agenda. And there he was on September 8th, saying the same thing that got Brother Jerry in trouble. After beating around the bush when asked by his own interviewer whether or not god caused 9/11 because we were sinners, he then said that the bible is full of references where an angry god sent plague and locusts and other bad things for living an ungodly existence. Dr. Kennedy, you see, is the slick Willie of Sunday preachers. 'No I'm not going to tell you what got brother Jerry in trouble but...it COULD have happened." And then of course we finish with a plea for money. Costs money to keep his show on TeeVee, and donations have been slim lately.

Let's see now, who was it that caused 9/11? Oh yea...a bunch of religious fanatics who said that their god wanted the world to be different. Allahu Akbar, and pass the collection plate! But of course Dr. Kennedy's message is different. After all, it's OUR god, and your god ain't diddlysquat.

Let's see now, why DID all those religious groups come over here in the first place???

By the way, Dr. Kennedy and Brother Jerry Falwell might take solace in the fact that they are not alone in their thinking. Saddam Hussein's official newspaper Al-Iktisadi ran a front-page photo of the burning World Trade Center with a red headline: "God's Punishment."

And then I watch the ceremonies on TV. If you didn't know any different, you'd swear that New York is the only place where lives were lost. Never mind the heroes that faced their attackers and foiled the plot. Because of them, we still have a Congress. We still have a government. Never mind the brave men and women that gave their lives in Virginia (home of the Pentagon), and managed to stick a finger in the eye of the attackers by having the place pristine in less than a year. Never mind the Virginians who are now suffering because of the tremendous tax revenues lost to closed airports and hamstrung businesses.

We ALL lost.

A WORLD of people died when the WTC towers fell. It was a WORLD trade center.

And so what is the right thing to do in the aftermath? Rise from the ashes as those in the Pentagon did? Create a memorial and consider "Ground Zero" to be a graveyard? Complain about the inequities in the compensation system for those with loved ones lost? Tell those at Logan that they deserve to be sued for letting the attackers through?

And what of my dark, dark feelings? Do the attackers understand that the vast majority of people here really don't "get" their message? Do they understand the hate they generated? Do they REALLY want to know what I feel way, way down inside, far away from the politically correct zone?

Is it possible to retain your love of life and man with so much hateful behavior?

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Plus je sait l'homme, plus j'aime mon chien.
- Charles DeGaulle

There, it is out of me - for now.

- Bill


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My only acknowledgement today was I changed a date on a memo to not reflect "September 11". I will/won't let myself get caught up with the stuff all around this anniversary. It's not I don't feel for the victims and their family or don't respect and honor the heroism of some of the folks who died. I do. But the agenda of many -- political, financial, personal, emotional, etc. -- is all over the place and I want no part of it.

I used to keep a journal. I had an entry for my father's funeral. I was numbed with grief and yet there were all these people running around trying to tell me (and my siblings) how we should feel and act. In my entry I referred to them as "the vampires of our grief and emotions." They simply wanted to feed off our loss for whatever their gain.

I'll have none of it. I said my prayer for the dead and living at the dawn of day, in private. We move on. Much remains to be done.

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I completely agree with you David, unfortunately that's life...

Sensei Glasheen,
that is a great song...another one, and relevant is Let It Be, not christian, but still a great song.

"When I find myself in times of trouble
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
And in my hour of darkness
She is standing right in front of me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be.
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.

And when the broken hearted people
Living in the world agree,
There will be an answer, let it be.
For though they may be parted there is
Still a chance that they will see
There will be an answer, let it be.
Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be.
There will be an answer, let it be.
Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be.
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.

Let it be, let it be, let it be, yeah let it be.
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.

And when the night is cloudy,
There is still a light that shines on me,
Shine on until tomorrow, let it be.
I wake up to the sound of music
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Let it be, let it be, let it be, yeah let it be.
There will be an answer, let it be.
Let it be, let it be, let it be, yeah let it be.
There will be an answer, let it be.
Let it be, let it be, let it be, yeah let it be.
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.
"

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Post by Tony-San »

I was hoping all day that my government would suprise me with september 11th payback.
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Post by Ian »

Against whom? Where? We've blown up everyone we could find.... if we had more targets located they wouldn't have waited for an anniversary.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote
After beating around the bush when asked by his own interviewer whether or not god caused 9/11 because we were sinners, he then said that the bible is full of references where an angry god sent plague and locusts and other bad things for living an ungodly existence.
In referring to a construction disaster and the workers who died during the project in Jerusalem, Jesus said:

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> ...Or those eighteen upon whom the tower of Siloe fell and killed them: do you think that they were more gulity than all the other dwellers in Jerusalem? I tell you no;...

Luke 13:4-5 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Funny how the Bible-thumpers don't mention this in their broadcasts; that bad thing happens to good people, either before or after they pass the collection plate.

If God wanted to destroy the purveyors of sinful activity in the West, he wouldn't go about destroying thousands of people while they are sitting at their desks, doing nothing wrong. These men and women didn't deserve any destruction.

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Against whom? Where? We've blown up everyone we could find.... if we had more targets located they wouldn't have waited for an anniversary.
One by one, we're getting 'em...

Eight Al-Qaida operatives and a financier have been captured in Tora Bora today.

Gene
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Post by Tony-San »

Some firing squad action (complete with head and/or gut shots) at Guantanomo Bay would have been nice.
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Wow-

I was brought up in a household where the religeon practiced was one in which emotions were provoked to solicte a guilty complience in what the colorfully ornamated "leaders" were telling you, you should do and feel. When I was a little girl I used to ask these same questions, "why doesn't god help me" (when I had strep throat) "Why does God let little babies die, why doesn't God help all these people?

The answers I received were designed to make me feel guilty for asking, and shut me up- something people aren't usually able to do until I feel like it LOL.

Then I realized as I grew up- that there's this thing called "free-will" a possible explaination for why bad things happen to good people. If God came down and showed himself to everyone- and prevented all the bad things, etc. etc. then he'd be wrecking his whole thing about "free-will".

Free will applies in every religeon- (including the free will to have the ability to mis-spell every-other word lol)

It also applies to making the decision to STOP those who "choose" to try to force their thoughts "be it Bin Laden, Jerry Fawhell ooopps I mean Fawell) on everyone else.

God, whomever he or she is to you, wants to promote unconditional love. LOVE which has NO CONDITIONS. Screw all these people that say give me this and God will give you that- follow this God and do what they say- and we'll (the leaders) garentee he'll love you UNCONDITIONALY.... (Hellloooo? )

esentially follow our conditions- and we'll make sure you are loved without any. I'm think'en HUH?

Loosing the lady-like appearence I'm supposed to keep- that's B@#$ F@#$ing S@#$!
(Hey Van- sometimes those words help! Image )

Then to place insult to injury these so called "religeous leaders" say pay me and I'll make sure "HE" gets your message.

It's the worst of humanity. It's sick and it's wrong. And those whom "hate" our country, for at least getting "part" of the unconditional love/free-will message should pay and pay dearly for trying to hurt us for it. We should rize to the occassion, to help anyone else that just wants to try to do what they think is right if they aren't trying to hurt anyone else in the process.

It makes me sad.
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Post by crazycat »

Just once I would like to see on TeeVee someone who wants to be healed. "May the power of the Lord heal you" after getting up from the floor punch him in the gut. Imagination is a terrible thing to waste.
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