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I am god!
- John (Williams) Muhammad

And so it seems to have passed.

To start with, this Monday morning quarterbacking might appear a bit like an "I told you so" post. It is not meant to be that way. What I am attempting to do with this post is to review my thinking and the thinking of others through and after this sniper incident.

You folks that don't live around here may not appreciate exactly how taxing these last few weeks have been. I've spent some time on Dana's forum communicating with her. She was within a handful of miles of most of the shootings. If you weren't there, you just wouldn't understand...

I had the misfortune of literally crossing paths with the dirtbag. Because he (they) were threatening to shoot children (and had already shot one), all the greater Richmond area school systems closed down last Monday and Tuesday. So there I was trying to cart my two boys around town, getting the one to daycare and the other to the in-laws. And this extra inconvenience actually put me on the same roads - at the same time - that the sniper was using. I finally ended up at my in-laws place, only to be greeted by him excitedly telling me they had caught the sniper. Actually they just missed him, and instead caught a few hapless illegal aliens driving a suspicious white van with tinted windows and spending a LONG time at a phone booth.

So... Why do I post?

To start with, I wanted to go through some interesting speculations and theories that were being tossed about. Folks thought:

1) It was Al Quaeda

2) It was a military sharpshooter.

I thought neither. Why? To start with, I go into a certain scientific mode of thinking in something like this that is similar to the way student thinks when doing criminal defense work.

DON'T JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS BEFORE YOU HAVE EXAMINED THE DATA.

When the Oklahoma City government building was bombed, Katie Couric was asking anyone who would be interviewed whether or not it was the work of Muslim terrorists. It made her look pretty silly when we found out it was "one of our own." A similar thing happened to the poor fellow that happened to be helpful at the Olympic bombing. That poor fellow had his life ruined.

So, what was I thinking?

Did anyone remember that the sniper MISSED on his first shot? It instead went through the window of a Michael's department store. He actually got better over time, but didn't always get a great shot. Why was his kill rate so high? Well the .223 round:

1) travels 3000 to 3500 feet per second,

2) breaks up into pieces when it hits.

Any fool with a scoped AR-15 (AK 16) with a little bit of target range practice can cause this much damage. Van actually guessed the AR-15, and he might be right (we will see).

Was this guy a crack shot? No... He was a mechanic that worked at a military base where they trained snipers. He was a wannabe.

I am also HOPING that the military screens people a little better before they send them off to very specialized work. I hope to hear I am right. Meanwhile, there are more than a couple of losers (like Timothy McVey) that sign up for the military and end up doing a little of this and a little of that. The cream rises, and **** sinks in any decent organization. Neither John nor Timothy made it THAT far.

What about the Al Quaeda connection? Well no good Muslim would write "I am god." on a tarot card. No good terrorist with a political agenda would leave his work completely unsigned.

Meanwhile, there were more than a few bad guys in this world watching with fascination and likely slapping their foreheads...

So, it turned to be someone who tuned trucks NEAR people that practiced sniper shooting, and SYMPATHIZED with the folks that brought us 9/11.

It was a whacko with shallow goals - money and an easy life at others' expense.

Scumbag...

More later on why I called the FBI and what that was about.

- Bill
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Lets hope they don't lose them do to a technicality. . . or that John Cochrin doesn't decide to represent them!

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Don't know if anyone has noticed this but it made me kinda sad:

"Felix Strozier, who ran a karate school with Muhammad in 1997 and 1998, said Muhammad told him he had been in the Army but did not say where."
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20021024_615.html

Makes me vaguely ill to think that this nutjob was connected with the martial arts in any way.
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George

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Lets hope ... that John Cochrin doesn't decide to represent them!
That would be an outrage! Image

newguy

Yes, I heard about the martial arts connection. He apparently was teaching for a bit too, and left the school with a $500 debt.

More information...

NPR says he received "expert" marksman status while in his training in the Army. Hmmm...

They found a Bushmaster rifle in his Chevy Caprice. This shoots the .223 round.

He apparently was married and divorced twice, and had a restraining order put on him by the second wife due to violent behavior.

Then there are the frequent run-ins with the law, etc.

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Well they got a positive ID on the rifle. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>A gun found in the suspects' car — a Bushmaster rifle — had been linked by ballistics to 11 of the 14 shootings, said Michael Bouchard, an agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

The AR-15 is the civilian form of the M-16 military assault rifle. As a soldier, Muhammad received a Marksmanship Badge with expert rating — the highest of three ratings — in use of the M-16, according to Army records. Police also found a scope and tripod in the car, the official said.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> - USA Today

That'll give you a bit of an advantage...

The whole article is below.

Rifle linked to deadly sniper spree

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I heard that he was from Ft. Lewis in Tacoma Wa. Had many family there. Several through that fort.

Mr. Glasheen- you are correct in saying we couldn't possibly know how it felt to be in the thick of it. But know also- that many of us were praying for and thinking of all of you down there.

It turned my stomake also to here of his karate background.

Scum bag doesn't cover the half of it.

And what of the son whom was with him? Willing party? Or son caught up in father's fight? Trauma either way for a teenager. A virtual child watching his father in the "name of God" kill people.

Makes me wonder who people think "God" is and why no one seems to understand "His or Her" point of unconditional love.

Goes to show what "emotion" can do to a person. Goes to show what sickly emotions can do to other people.

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The FBI call

This has been and will be an obscenely busy fall. I am traveling all over the country on just about every weekend. Realizing that your kids are only around for so long, I thought it prudent to schedule a family trip. So last weekend I was up at Wintergreen resort enjoying the fall leaves in the mountains. We spent part of the day watching U.Va. thrash UNC on the football field, and the rest of the day walking on the Brimstone and Blackstone trails in the Appalachian Mountains. It was an afternoon introducing my boys to the many native trees, mountain laurel with buds, colorful moss and lichen on rocks, views of the valley below, etc.

The Wintergreen resort was LOADED with UNC fans staying there to travel to Charlottesville for the football game. I was in a sea of Carolina Blue. It was making me seasick. Image You have to be a Virginian to understand this one... In any case, we came back exhausted from the hike, rested, and then ate out before retiring back at the condominium that we rented.

I took over the TV, because I wanted to see the sports review of the game. It was quite a game. U.Va.'s young team allowed the Tarheels to get ahead 21-0 at half, and things were looking bleak. On the opening kickoff of the second half, U.Va. ran the ball 100 yards for their first score of the day. They never looked back, and UNC looked hapless from that point on. You just have to savor a victory like that...

...but breaking news destroyed the evening. The sniper(s) shot someone stepping out of The Ponderosa steakhouse in Ashland, Virginia. That, my friends, is WAY too close to my home. And then I looked to see that they had blocked off Interstate 95, hoping to trap the sniper. I knew they had blown it...

A warrior thinks like a warrior all the time. I've read my share of thriller novels, and see how bad guys get the good guys. One way they do it is to study peoples' routines, and nail them when they are vulnerable. What is the solution to that? The solution is NOT to be predictable. So partly out of "game" and partly out of being a warrior, I made (and make) it a point to vary my time for being at places, and choose different ways to go from place to place. When you try that, you find it's a lot of fun. Years of riding motorcycles also taught me to take the path less traveled, strictly out of the joy of riding. On a bike, the best road is the road that is the least direct way to get from point A to point B.

If you know anything about where the Ashland shooting occurred, you will know that the shooter was actually closer to Route 1 than to I95. They run parallel to each other for miles and miles. It's a lousy way to go from south to north, but a great diversion and a wonderful way to see the countryside. And if you go south... $h!t !!!

I am a traveler to some extent. My alma mater and the U.Va. Uechi club is west of me. The mountains are just slightly more west. D.C. and Northern VA are north. Research Triangle is south of me. The beach is east. I made it a point to find a piece of Eden that has the perfect access to roads that go in all directions.

$h!t !!!!

When I got on the phone, I told the FBI individual that I95 was the last place the person would go. I told her that if it were me, I would take Route 1 south to I295. And then from there, I told her how easy it would be to lose someone, and how someone could float around that region for days and not get caught. I told her what the key roads were that made it easy to scoot in many directions.

One of them was Parham Road.

The sniper made a call to the Montgomery County authorities from a phone booth at Parham Road and West Broad Street... several miles from my home. We likely crossed paths. They ALMOST caught him there. They missed him by 10 minutes.

The FBI was getting 400 calls per hour in the peak. My call probably got lost in the noise of information that hit them. That's OK... The important thing is that they got him.

Scumbag...

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Post by Tony-San »

Bill, it looked to me like it was a little bit of everything.... Al Queda, Military, Insane Criminal. I think we where all right. I think the Bushmaster is a short rifle too... 20" barrel..
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As a good liberal, I would not mind having my taxes increased to meet the expense of harvesting the organs of these scum bags. And I would just take the organs one at a time, as they were needed. People used to say that executing murderers would not bring back the people they killed. That is true enough, but two hearts, livers, pairs of lungs, kidneys, etc., could bring back a lot of other people. The Chinese have been criticized for this kind of practicality, but I think the case in China is tainted by the quality of the court system.
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As a good liberal, I would not mind having my taxes increased to meet the expense of harvesting the organs of these scum bags. And I would just take the organs one at a time, as they were needed.
So you would torture these men, assuming they are convicted if these high-profile crimes?

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The Chinese have been criticized for this kind of practicality, but I think the case in China is tainted by the quality of the court system.
The Chinese have proven minimal, if any, regard for the basic human/civil rights of humanity. In no manner should we model any of our actions against those of the despotic, murderous, Communist CHinese government.

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My object would not be to torture them, just to preserve as many organs as possible in order to restore people who would otherwise die. The surgical procedures, etc., would be humane, though the idea, itself, is "fairly" stark. I would, of course, be very careful about extending this opportunity to most other convicted murderers. Circumstances differ, and we do make mistakes.
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I say we hire some Engineers to fabricate a giant black widow spider web out of piano strings. Then launch these two maniacs into it with a giant napolean-style trabuchet from a mile away.
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Post by Gene DeMambro »

But Tony, wouldn't that ruin the organs?

Harvey,

How would removing someone's organs against their will, surgically, one at a time while keeping them alive medically not torture?

Gene

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Post by Harvey »

Gene, I did not say it would be pleasant. I would not go out of my way to create more pain than necessary for them. And, in fact, I am really pushing it with the comment about keeping them alive. But I am serious about harvesting their parts. If their pain could save lives and so make some kind of restitution for the lives they took, so be it.
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