"Muslims are not a race."
I'm sure you are aware that my comment was made in response to Ms. coulter recommending that "ragheads" get special scrutiny in airports. So let's address the actual issue, which is about profiling the people Ms. Coulter believes LOOK like muslims (you know, the ones from countries she would bomb back to the stone age with no concern for civilian casualties or the effects they would have on antiamericanism and AQ recruitment, per interview comments; the ones she was thinking about when she said "invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to christianity.") That profiling, if I follow your logic out, would allow the police to stop and search any young black men walking around at night, stop them on the highways north from cocaine import areas, let the police stop latinos in the southwest to check for immigration status, and let the government invade the privacy of anyone who looks like they might be a terrorist, again meaning those of mideast ancestry or perhaps anyone and everyone attending mosques. OR, we could have intensive airport security for all, which appears to be working. Personally, I don't doubt there are times to suspend the protections and equalities guaranteed by our nation. Habeus corpus was suspended during the civil war, and during WWII (sorry, interned patriotic japanese americans), for example. In a high risk situation, say, when people are clearing airports of potential threats 7 years and a day ago, then by all means, pick on the likely suspects. But there is no call to harrass any and all muslim-appearing individuals for the sake of security day to day in America, and the last 7 years has shown that to be the case. If you want to live in a police state, well, so be it; I don't.
"I am always entertained by the open minded, diversity spouting, liberal invectives hurled at folks like Ann Coulter who express effectively ideas which the American Politburo deems threatening ... American Values, Right to Keep Arms, not be taxed to death, antipathy to the demeaning Racial Profiling inherent in 'affirmative action'."
Wait... are we talking about "those liberals" again? They keep coming up! I can't speak for them. Personally, I endorse "American Values" of good citizenship, freedoms guaranteed in our laws such as the right to bear arms, speak, and not be stopped at airports for being brown. I am all for reducing my property taxes, which are ten times those for my neighbor who has the same house (thanks, Cali). I don't believe we should spend money we don't have and find our exploding debts horrifying. And yeah, I'm super disgusted by the demeaning racial profiling inherent in affirmative action--that obviously should be limited to suspecting brown people of terrorist or criminal intent, right? Not giving them demeaning
opportunities.
So I dunno who "these" irrational liberals are, except to say there are nuts of all flavors in the USA. Ann Coulter is chief wing nut if you ask me.
"As a confident, open minded, never threatened by beautiful and strong women, and logical Conservative [ as many Conservatives I want to conserve all my American freedoms, hopes, aspirations, safety, etc.] I queried him on his contradictory liking of Lady Margaret Thatcher of whom he had a high opinion as opposed to his apoplexy at Governor Palin. All he could say was that Thatcher liked President Reagan. When I showed a parallel path that Governor Palin is taking he resorted to irrational, personal, and physical invectives. ... My conclusion from studies on mental processes is that some folks are intimidated by strong women and liberals in particular revert to personal ad hominem destructors and emotion when logic contradicts them and they feel threatened with loss. "
Listen, I dunno what you're implying, or appear to be implying, but I had a slight preference for Obama largely because I felt he was more electable, but otherwise would be a Hillary guy. I'm not threatened by her strength. I'm not threatened by Palin either, in fact, I have already said that while I am opposed to all her ideas, I'm excited that the face of the white house is changing forever because either she or Obama will be elected to our highest offices. I thought Crouching Tiger was the bomb because of the strong female leads, especially Michelle Y, and my fav action movie is Aliens and I have a fondness for Terminator 2. My work pals are largely outspoken, strong willed, witty and stylish female physicians and two genial gay guys (who might as well be
unattractive outspoken women). I dislike Coulter because she lies with every breath--and that's it.
YOU on the other hand seem to be saying that you're a cool headed conservative who's cool with women and much more logical than those liberals. Unlike people who think the other side is intrinsically asinine, I have recently spoken up for Scalia's antipathy for Roe v Wade and the right's general view that abortion is a wrong. I don't think ALL of the opposition is merely imbued with a different logic because a lot of it is based on unverifiable and unshakable religious fundamentalism rather than observation and logic--that does scare me. As for all those level headed conservatives, again, I've recently presented data showing they possess racial preferences more than liberals (but were more open about them) and have heard one after another tear into Hillary for no reason other than they don't like her, hardly any of them able to tell me why. "How do we beat the (rhymes with witch)" was the question posed to republican nominees, and that wasn't one nut--the crowd roared approval and the reply failed to rebuke the insult. And we all know that if you go asking about traditional values w.r.t female roles, those who believe women should not work, should focus on childrearing, should listen to the man of the house, and should stay out of leadership roles usually define themselves as conservatives and often trace their beliefs to comments about priests heading the church and men heading the family in the Bible. I'm not saying most conservatives feel that way, but I am saying that the push for traditional gender roles comes from the right.
So believe that "Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder" all you want--I've yet to see any evidence that they're more nuts than conservatives here in your post, or elsewhere, and the fact that Coulter says it largely proves that its untrue.
Note: I'm not critiquing any of YOUR personal logic, or accusing you of any biases, other than you've attacked liberals as insecure illogical nuts without sufficient reason and ignored right wing nuttiness in the process, and I found it interesting that you would support racial profiling for security and attack it as degrading when its used for promotions in the SAME post. You did not have call to dismiss my dislike of Coulter as some irrational gut feeling; she is perhaps the most refuted author in America, or else is in medal contention. The REST of my comments are reserved for the conservatives to whom they apply--and not the nice, sane ones with different but logical views I occasionally run into.
Palin issues to the Palin thread, I would say, and I suggest we return to Coulter for this thread rather than mutate it to another liberal v conservative thread. Coulter has a TON of insane and deliberately untrue comments out there to laugh and cry about instead.
Frankly I don't see a wallflower in the group. These characters are all classic alpha personalities.
