JIm Hawkins
"I find it simplisic reality deficientt and shockingly naive"
No reason to get nasty.....but Ok.
You mean as opposed to the whole
pity me.. I'm just a helpless hapless victem of historical forces beyond my control thing your serving as spokesperson for?
"Power and money are what really controls...the prime mover"
Even if correct ---which depending on context is debatable---whom
has the "power and money" are
changeable and certainly achiveable--outside of a worldview that assumes the Knights Templer secretly control the world.
The whole DotCom thing alone made millionares and broke a few.
The so-called "nutroots" which is what the Right calls the Left blogosphere didn't even exsist 10 years ago (not really) and now they pull HEAVY weight in the Democratic party---check with them in another 10 years and see what they can do......and most of them BTW are NOT rich and powerful INDIVIDUALLY--but collectively power players.
"representaitve goverment--so what? Perhaps we should all quit our jobs.....people couldn't tell you what the bill of rights is........"
A--Interesting you cast "reprentative goverement" in "so what" terms......maybe you would prefer Chinese style Communism.....only they wouldn't let you on the internet to even talk about it.
B--the 2nd half of the quote---that would seem to go my way perfect example of
disinterested and self absorbed populace....the exact kind that can't muster the political
will to get the bums out of office---just like I said---its not
can't its
won't.
"how many deeds ...........that are not in the best interest.....of Americans, but were in the best interests of the military industrial complex, other big business, international banking...old money....."
The people running "big business" and the "military" and even "international banking" are not the same people that were running them even 50 years ago--and they were not the ones running things 50 years prior to that---and different people still will be running things 50 years from now.
Even "old money" comes and goes---perhaps I should worry about Paris Hilton being part of the cabal?????
Sure she has the cash---but the ability to manupulate events and people like a shadowy grandmaster chessplayer...somehow I really don't think so......unless of course that is exactly what she wants us to think!!!!!!!
But we seem to be taking a hard dive into "black helicopter" territory ...cue Twilight Zone music and Rod Serling.
"look at our culture over the last 60 years.....culture.....standard of living ...ect""
Ok, I'm a hell of lot better off than my father or esp my grandfather was in terms of "standard of living."
Are things getting tougher? Maybe, but things have been tough before---if you know anything at all about economics is that things go in
cycles---its a peculier hubris---the blinkered conviction that things are only supposed to go
up all the time--forever....and it just don't work that way.......it goes in cycles.
The period before the crash was really good--the Depression gave way to stunning prosperity---we may be in harder times than the 80s/90s--but we have been there before--and we will be their again...people need to take a deep breath and
you need to loosen your corset and put down the suicide pills
"all we have to do is organize...yes of course, thats all...tell it to the PTA or Santa's elves."
Or you could "tell it" to the Obama campaign.....and on the flip side---wasn't the Clinton "machine" supposed to be unbeatable?.. Or the Greens.... or the the resurgent Democratic party--who is now in charge of Congress--or the British Conservative whom are making a comeback or the French Conservatives who also have made a comeback or the German conservatives whom are also making a comeback, or any number of the "special interest" groups----except of course, unlike "Santa's elves" they actually did "organize" and now they wield some real power.
Its really a pretty simple choice, you either chose to view the world and your place in it as a helpless hapless pawn and the victem of shadowy forces beyond your control and even real compreshension........while being careful not to knock over the walls of the soundstage of the B-Movie your shooting.
Or you can join us out here in a reality where things are imperfect, often random and chaotic---changable for the good or bad...sometimes both.
Consider this---somebody
created the idea of the EU--and they were able to convience enough people that their "best interests" lay with its development---some people love it--many people hate it--but it shows you what a group of people can do if they but have the
will to get out and get the support they needed......if those that oppose it can't do the same...its not a lack of ability...is a lack of
will...if
people could do it..then other
people could stop it.
Take yourself for an example----other than take the time to BMW, what have you actually
done to get the poltical change you wish to see---are you organizing people to get the bums out? Forming political action groups? Building coalitions within your local party?
Represenative government requires active participation and considering how few people
even bother to vote let alone take the time to make sure that they understand things like the economy and geopolitics etc.....its a wonder that things work as well as they do...which ain't much
But I guess that its much easier and requires much less effort to simple belive in and embrace ones helplessness and inablity to effect political change........easier to rant on line than do the hard, thankless and often frustating work of being an involved and active citizen.....plus it comes with its own anti-guilt devices--- essentially you simply say--"its not that I don't want to work for change of course--I want to but it wouldn't do any good--the tri-lateral commison is running things....people are sheep etc."
Certainly seems to be working for you...........
Or to put it another way........." I strongly disagree with
you."
