London - We are with you!

[Guest]

My FAVORITE! Thanks Akil!

Sometimes the prisoners get bored and start getting a little creative... and yes, every once in a while the boredom breeds a closet poop-jockey. More often then not, the Poop-Jockey doesn't even know he/she has a poop fetish... it just happens...

The soldier is obviously trying to lend a hand and getting this guy ready to hose him down after he was having some fun.

[Mills75]

Tony, you make me laugh so hard man .... Wow doo doo pix my favorite that was a classic response for the archives. Even in bad circumstances one must find humor to remain intact and live a productive and worry free life. Keep smiling and don't let the terrorists damper our attitudes and lives..Terrorists want to scare us and make us change let's keep on smiling in the face of it.

Jeff

[Guest]

Terrorists want to scare us and make us change let's keep on smiling in the face of it.

Jeff

And they want to roll in our doodey, just like the guy in Akil's picture. You see, he knows he can never be an american, but if he rolls in our doodey, he can disguise himself as one.

[Mary S]

http://forums.uechi-ryu.com/viewtopic.p ... l+watching

Saw the faces of the bombers on CNN today....and am thankful for cameras

[Akil Todd Harvey]

this thread deteriorated a long time ago ........I was just responding in kind

joking about revenge and toture.....is that how we honor the dead in London?????

and i guess its ok to joke about torture so long as you dont show any real picutres of people actually having fun doing torture.......

lets blame the messenger......should we be mad at those folks in the picture who torture? Nah! they too busy having a good ole time.......



and for those of you shocked at these fotos, this is how we get our revenge........

justice always looks different from a lyching or mob rule......lets get back to the mob........

[Mary S]

"and i guess its ok to joke about torture so long as you dont show any real picutres of people actually having fun doing torture......."



I'm going to say you guess wrong.....

It seems to me the people who tortured (as in the pictures you posted) were made to pay for that....and as I recall there was outrage expressed around the world.

I wonder why the thread is deteriorating

[Akil Todd Harvey]

It seems to me the people who tortured (as in the pictures you posted) were made to pay for that....and as I recall there was outrage expressed around the world.

There was outrage around the world alright, mary, but much of the outrage was that anyone dared to question the motives of america or american sevicemen........

and the trials did not hapen right away, first we had to try to hide it under the rug. we tried to pretend that torture hadnt happened and then we tried to pretend that torutre was ok and then we put to justice a few low level scapegoats........but no one who had any real power or responsibility was ever held publcily to account.....

we exonerated ourselves because we said that the torture was not policy, depsite the fact that it had occurred in so many places simultaneously, and according to most reports, it is still occurring, despite the outrage.






I didnt deteriorate this thread into a sarcastic joke about nuking the middle east or torturing suspected terrorists, but if people want to make jokes about torturing people on the thread in which we supposedly mourn the dead of the London bombings, let us be perfectly clear, that was not started by me.........

I sent a pm to the moderator of this forum decrying the jokes about killing the innocents (could or should or would nuke the middle east, makes little difference, the suggestion is the same-make lots of innocents suffer for the deds of a few-sure sounds like Tony and others were advocating terrorism).........

This thread turned away from sympathy with London to lets get revenge practicaly form the first page.

I deliberately pm'd the moderator trying to get him to do something about this thread and the direction it was going. we started out with sympathy and quickly got involved in figuring out amusing forms of revenge........

revenge is great and all, mary, and i am soooo sorry I dont support the revenge thingie a bit more, but that would make us a bit too much like the terrorists for my own comfort

[Bill Glasheen]

revenge is great and all, mary, and i am soooo sorry I dont support the revenge thingie a bit more, but that would make us a bit too much like the terrorists for my own comfort

First, your pictures were out of context, Akil. It seems to me they did more to discredit your case.

Second, there SHOULD be consequences to homicide. And in this case, I would presume that it would go international, unless you can convince me that the youths in this U.K. Pakistani community had a sudden and spontaneous rash of sociopathic behavior.

There is a time to mourn, and a time to deal consequences. Mourning is an emotional response to tragedy. Emotions sometimes have nothing to do with logic.

The preferred method of dealing with issues on these forums is to present your own point of view, and why you believe in it. There will be differences. Let's respect them.

When gently challenged, Tony was big enough to admit that his point of view wasn't the consensus. We should be impressed with all individuals involved in that dialogue.

- Bill

[Akil Todd Harvey]

Emotions sometimes have nothing to do with logic.

that's right bill, but it seems that my postings must meet with everyone else' logic, while their postings need not be logical, they are allowed to be as emotional as they like, while I am supposed to act clinical and rationally, 100% of the time, no deviation whatsoever......it is exactly this kind of double standard that encourages me to be absent from these forums most of the time....this is not about dialogue or understanding, but rather diatribe and blatherings of hatred......

long live islamophobia.....let's work harder to promote it

[Bill Glasheen]

It's not the emotions, Akil, it's the sarcastic barbs towards individuals and their opinions. That's the fodder for flame wars past and present.

You are encouraged to be yourself to the extent that we get to see what you think and you help us think. But respect others. I certainly have encouraged you to represent your personal Islamic point of view.

Why are you so emotionally hijacked when we need your thoughts the most? Food for thought...

- Bill

[Guest]

joking about revenge and toture.....is that how we honor the dead in London?????

What torture? I see pictures of a male and female nurse serving in the US forces bandaging up a wounded Iraqi civilian who was bombed by a syrian-islamic brother. They are caring for these poor souls and judging by their reaction, it looks like they are gonna be OK! They make me so proud! That is what America is all about, caring for others. In the other picture is the same male nurse reaching out to an arab who has a severe psyhological disorder (aka Copropheliac). You can see his Home-Grown USA love reaching out to him, pleading with him to "go to the light" so that he won't eat another piece of the Poopy.

These soldiers make me proud to be an American!

GO USA!

[jorvik]

Well as the only one here who is anywhere remotely near London..I think that I should have the loudest voice .....And let me be the first to say that the Islamic community has been the first to condem these attacks...............it is only the BBC ( Bliar's Broadcasting Corporation) that hasn't seen fit to call them terrorists ( he is very poitically correct you know ).the very forces that made disaffected Hindu's convert to Islam are the same foreces that drove them to the Western world......Especially Pakistani's, who have developed thriving business communities here............they are as horrified as we are.
As to Tony's comments well ( Iwas going to make a comment about Willy Wonka.....but thought better of it )..............I understand where Akil is coming from. As a prominent figure in UK sport said "Islam means Peace"....lets just reflect on that a little .A Jihad as I understand it means "something in furtherance of Islam".........this has done nothing for Islam. And don't forget Islam believes in the Devil and Jins...............maybe in a cool collected way we should reflect on this. what led these young men astray, did we play any part in this?.how could our actions be thought of as something that would need this kind of responce??
......I don't take this lightly,remember I live here

[Akil Todd Harvey]

Mohammad was related as having once said, upon returning from war (to his community), "Now that we have finished the small jihad (military action) and we return to the big jihad (controlling our own base desires)"........

Jihad means simply to struggle.......... to do the right thing......nothing more, nothing less........





Islamophobes and islamofascists (are they on the same team I wonder?) strive to limit the understanding of the word Jihad to the military context alone..........



It is assumed that a mother who is killed crossing the street carrying her baby could be sent to heaven as a martyr(jihadi) because she was struggling to do the right thing (caring for her children)...........but this is not the flashy definition that will ever make the evening news.....

[jorvik]

Well there you are
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" "Now that we have finished the small jihad (military action) and we return to the big jihad (controlling our own base desires)"........ "

from the Prophet himself no less ( Blessings be upon him)...........IAkil, I hope that I got that right

[Akil Todd Harvey]

Islamophobes and islamofascists (are they on the same team I wonder?) strive to limit the understanding of the word Jihad to the military context alone..........

it is so much easier to fight a guy when we misunderstand him and make false assumptions about his faith, purpose, etc.......