Tekko

Karateka · Post by **Karateka** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 4:27 am

I just learned Maezato no Tekko today, very good kata. Anyone else study this kata? What do you tekko look like?

Here's a video clip: http://home.wxs.nl/~poel0383/tekko_kata.html

My tekko look like this:

Karateka · Post by **Karateka** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:21 am

No one else does tekko?

Bill Glasheen · Post by **Bill Glasheen** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:01 pm

My guess is that someone like Ron Klein - who occaionally visits the site - has wroked with them. And perhaps Glenn can tell us if David Lamb has run across them in his kobudo studies.

A word of caution... They are not something you want to get caught with in your car; they are essentially brass knuckles. It would be difficult to explain. Make sure you check your local laws.

- Bill

mori · Post by **mori** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:51 pm

It seems to me that Sensei Heilman of the IKKF( http://www.enter.net/~ikkf/ikkf.html) once did a tekko kata at a demonstration.

He is one of the most knowledgeable kobudo people I have ever met. A nice dinner companion as well.

maurice

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:11 pm

Bill Glasheen wrote:My guess is that someone like Ron Klein - who occaionally visits the site - has wroked with them. And perhaps Glenn can tell us if David Lamb has run across them in his kobudo studies.

A word of caution... They are not something you want to get caught with in your car; they are essentially brass knuckles. It would be difficult to explain. Make sure you check your local laws.

- Bill

Tekko are included in Matayoshi style kobudo, but Dave does not teach them and I don't recall him mentioning ever training with them. He focuses on bo, sai, tonfa, nunchaku, and kama.

Bill's note of caution applies to several kobudo weapons. In most states you wouldn't want to be driving home from the dojo with a set of nunchaku, or even probably tonfa, sitting next to you in the front seat and get pulled by the police. You'd probably have some explaining to do with sai and kama as well...not to mention trying to hide a nuntei-bo in your car. There was a column in Bugeisha, back when it was in print, that discussed this very situation: Someone driving home from the dojo with a set of nunchaku in the front seat and an officer pulls him over, sees the nunchaku, and charges him with something like possession of an illegal weapon.

Halford · Post by **Halford** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:07 pm

Unfortunately, we live in modern world,society, culture, that does not allow for much deviation from the politically correct attitudes now prevailing.Each day we find whether under one political group or another the same repression and suppression. We do now live in a police state, in which, ordinary, law-abiding citizens are targeted by the police while murderers and other assorted criminals roam the streets. We are are war, so to speak,with both the police and the criminals,that is, if you are an ordinary person. We have more to fear from criminals in our midst than from terrorists coming into the country. Everyday, more criminals, murders,rapists,etc. are being let out by do gooders. It matters now how many statistics you quote, the fact remains, that when they kill you or jail you, you are there!

PS: Perhaps you can carry those handles that are used for steel cable exercisers in lieu of the tekko and so forth.Know what I mean. I guess some are now made of plastic,etc.

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:04 pm

To be fair though the police are just as much in the middle as the "ordinary citizen", with all ends working against them. Not only do they have to deal with the dangers inherent to their jobs, but also with the constant frivolous lawsuits brought against them by the criminals they bust and contempt from the judicial system and the public at large.

If I were an officer I know I wouldn't be happy about seeing any weapon sitting within easy reach of someone I pulled over for a traffic violation.

Not all restrictions are negative, most have some legitimacy particularly in the framework of protecting society in general. The problem is not investigating what restrictions are out there when you take up the study of weapons and then running into trouble as a result.

Ron Klein · Post by **Ron Klein** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 12:13 am

Sorry guys for not being a more active participant—I have been quite busy.

Tekko-absolutely, we do two-tekko kata:

Maezato no tekko : the long version (my hat is off to anyone who can learn Maezato no tekko in a day—wow!
Konagawa no tekko.

We have several different types of tekko. I have two sets from Okinawa that are hammered out of solid brass. They are quite heavy! Other sets are made from strap steel and also heavy.

One of my students gave me a weapon that looks like tekko, but is made of crossed horse shoes-we perform the tekko kata with this weapon. Halford do you know of this weapon????

The tekko is an excellent training tool and both of the tekko kata are required for dan ranking in our kobudo system. One interesting aspect of the tekko is that striking is made with a vertical fist coupled with a raking motion. With openhanded applications, a vertical punch with a rake at the end is quite devastating and more effective than a strike perpendicular to the surface of the body. Interesting.

Another interesting weapon is the techo which I believe was used to weave fishing nets.

As to legal issues. The tekko is related to the knuckle-dusters and brass knuckles still popular with the consumers of our criminal justice system-needless to say illegal. When being transported they need to be in a locked case or bag and inaccessible.

One thing you may consider. In Maezato no tekko there are many movements that are readily adaptable to the kubaton and chesen-kun-bo. For self-protection applications, I’d suggest doing the kata with a pair of kubatons.

Again, sorry for my absence---

Thanks

Ron

Halford · Post by **Halford** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 12:49 am

recall seeing some device like that somewhere but it eludes me now. I may have seen it in some books on weapons or possibly in some martial arts magazine. Anyway, a pair of horseshoes, one in each hand, could be used as weapons,certainly. Two horsehoes welded together so that they are 'roundish' so that you can place, possibly your wrist into the device(s) is another way to have a weapon. Then welding the horsehoes so that the round ends are joined so that you grip the two in the center is another way to consider but perhaps more awkward to use. Right now this is hard to convey in words and I am unable to do any drawings of what I'm trying to convey here. Of course you might have difficulty in explaining why you are carrying some horsehoes in your car these days! The modern horseshoes are somewhat different these days also,from what I gather. Putting a horseshoe on a chain and swinging it at someone is another weapon also. I think the wrestler Haystacks Calhoun word one around his neck when he entered the ring years ago,if any of you remember him?

Tekko

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I was going to say much the same thing about the laws.

The crossed horsehoes.....seem vaguely familiar in that I