A letter from a Marine in Afghanistan

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A letter from a Marine in Afghanistan

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I got this via the usual 3rd hand method we all get various tidbits that float from e-mail account to e-mail account. Except in this case, I happen to have a fairly direct source to the Military. No, it's not Rich. ;) Just a lifelong friends whose son is serving his country.

This is interesting in the nitty gritty of what it's like to be out there on the front lines. I've read about this from myriad sources related to the spread of disease during the great wars. I've actually experienced some of these unpleasant conditions as a summer worker for a company that installed transmitter stations in inhospitable areas like The Dismal Swamp. Yea... gotta love those chiggers!

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This is from Jim a retired Delta pilot and a Marine fighter pilot . The letter comes from his son serving in Afghanistan:

It’s freezing here. I’m sitting on hard, cold dirt between rocks and shrubs at the base of the Hindu Kush Mountains along the Dar ‘yoi Pomir River watching a hole that leads to a tunnel that leads to a cave. Stake out, my friend, and no pizza delivery for thousands of miles. I also glance at the area around my ass every ten to fifteen seconds to avoid another scorpion sting. I’ve actually given up battling the chiggers and sand fleas, but them scorpions give a jolt like a cattle prod. Hurts like a bastard. The antidote tastes like transmission fluid but God bless the Marine Corps for the five vials of it in my pack. The one truth the Taliban cannot escape is that, believe it or not, they are human beings, which means they have to eat food and drink water. That requires couriers and that’s where an old bounty hunter like me comes in handy. I track the couriers, locate the tunnel entrances and storage facilities, type the info into the handheld, shoot the coordinates up to the satellite link that tells the air commanders where to drop the hardware, we bash some heads for a while, then I track and record the new movement. It’s all about intelligence. We haven’t even brought in the snipers yet. These scurrying rats have no idea what they’re in for. We are but days away from cutting off supply lines and allowing the eradication to begin.

I dream of bin Laden waking up to find me standing over him with my boot on his throat as I spit a bloody ear into his face and plunge my nickel plated Bowie knife through his frontal lobe. But you know me. I’m a romantic. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: This country blows, man. It’s not even a country. There are no roads, there’s no infrastructure, there’s no government. This is an inhospitable, rock pit $hit hole ruled by eleventh century warring tribes. There are no jobs here like we know jobs. Afghanistan offers two ways for a man to support his family: join the opium trade or join the army. That’s it. Those are your options. Oh, I forgot, you can also live in a refugee camp and eat plum-sweetened, crushed beetle paste and squirt mud like a goose with stomach flu if that’s your idea of a party. But the smell alone of those ‘tent cities of the walking dead’ is enough to hurl you into the poppy fields to cheerfully scrape bulbs for eighteen hours a day.

I’ve been living with these Tajiks and Uzbeks and Turkmen and even a couple of Pushtins for over a month and a half now and this much I can say for sure: These guys, all of ‘em, are Huns. Actual, living Huns. They LIVE to fight. It’s what they do. It’s ALL they do. They have no respect for anything, not for their families or for each other or for themselves. They claw at one another as a way of life. They play polo with dead calves and force their five-year-old sons into human cockfights to defend the family honor. Huns, roaming packs of savage, heartless beasts who feed on each others barbarism. Cavemen with AK47’s. Then again, maybe I’m just cranky. I’m freezing my ass off on this stupid hill because my lap warmer is running out of juice and I can’t recharge it until the sun comes up in a few hours. Oh yeah! You like to write letters, right? Do me a favor, Bizarre. Write a letter to CNN and tell Wolf and Anderson and that awful, sneering, pompous Aaron Brown to stop calling the Taliban ’smart.’ They are not smart. I suggest CNN invest in a dictionary because the word they are looking for is ‘cunning.’ The Taliban are cunning, like jackals and hyenas and wolverines. They are sneaky and ruthless and, when confronted, cowardly. They are hateful, malevolent parasites who create nothing and destroy everything else. Smart. Pfft. Yeah, they’re real smart. They’ve spent their entire lives reading only one book (and not a very good one, as books go) and consider hygiene and indoor plumbing to be products of the devil. They’re still figuring out how to work a Bic lighter. Talking to a Taliban warrior about improving his quality of life is like trying to teach an ape how to hold a pen; eventually he just gets frustrated and sticks you in the eye with it.

OK, enough. Snuffle will be up soon so I have to get back to my hole. Covering my tracks in the snow takes a lot of practice but I’m good at it. Please, I tell you and my fellow Americans to turn off the TV sets and move on with your lives. The story line you are getting from CNN and other news agencies is utter bullshit and designed not to deliver truth but rather to keep you glued to the screen through the commercials. We’ve got this one under control. The worst thing you guys can do right now is sit around analyzing what we’re doing over here because you have no idea what we’re doing and, really, you don’t want to know. We are your military and we are doing what you sent us here to do.

You wanna help? Buy Bonds America .

Saucy Jack, Reconnaissance Marine in Afghanistan: Semper Fidelis
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I realize that you're not explicitely saying this letter is authentic, just that it paints a picture, but it appears to be a cleaned-up, and greatly enhanced, version of an e-mail that has been circulating since 2001. While Snopes recognizes that it is not known if a soldier in Afghanistan wrote the original (and I would now add whether one modified it to create this enhanced version), they point out some inaccuracies that make it doubtful.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/freezing.asp
Bill Glasheen wrote: To all those who serve us and make our lives more comfortable at home, I am grateful.
I second that.
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Thanks for the Snopes detective work, Glenn. I figured someone would get to the source quickly if it's been around a bit.

I'll send that link to my friend.

The following from Snopes pretty much captures it.
We have no idea...
Thus they neither confirm nor deny that the source is authentic. Fair enough!

As for the inconsistencies and nobody coming forth to claim being "Saucy Jack", well...
a true "Recon Marine" wouldn't be broadcasting specifics about his position to the world at large...
Actually he didn't. In this version, it was sent to his dad.

More...
If this really was the work of a serviceman in Afghanistan, he was deliberately trying to be misleading or funny...
That I believe captures it.

This couldn't be penned by someone without "some" knowledge of events, methods, and tactics. There's enough information for the well-informed to blow holes in it, but also enough for someone to realize that the author who penned it knew a little something about life in the field.

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This does remind me just a little of my friend and former employee Dr. Harvey Rowe who penned the infamous "Smithsonian Barbie" letter. As the Eagles song says, Talk is cheap when the story is good. ;)

The thing to note about Snope's Smithsonian Barbie critique is the following.
Harvey Rowe of the Smisthonian doesn't exist. (Which is indeed our loss. What a talent for gentle sarcasm!)
Actually... Snopes is wrong. Harvey Rowe is a real person, and worked for me for a number of years at the Virginia BCBS plan. He's an MD who had a change of heart about careers, and went back to school to get a Masters in Health Informatics. He penned the letter one night late while bored with his schoolwork. The rest is history.

The True story of Harvey Rowe
As for the media claiming I don't exist, that obviously is in context with being an employee of the Smithsonian, and I've never been one. I'm fairly certain I exist; at least I'm willing to entertain the notion. If it turns out that I don't then you should probably feel a little spooky reading this.
Harvey now works for a well-known health information company.

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Ive talked to two canadian soldiers who served in afganistan, and they say they have life long friends there now, afgans. Also had lots of positive things to say about the regulars there.

Of course ive also talked to Canadian soldiers who viewed them with the same disdain as the Taliban.

Different experiences i guess.
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AAAhmed46 wrote:
Ive talked to two canadian soldiers who served in afganistan, and they say they have life long friends there now, afgans. Also had lots of positive things to say about the regulars there.
From my understanding of it all, the Afghan people are a mixed and complex lot. They go from the city dwellers who live an urban existence to the tribal folk whose loyalties lie with whomever gives them the latest and greatest good deal. Hospitality does however seem to be something that is characteristic of the people. To some, there is an obligation to be social to those deserving of good will.

The Taliban however are an extremist group with a somewhat singular intent of bringing the country under their influence and their idea of a proper religious existence. Those ideals however aren't consistent with most ideals of the civilized in the 21st century. They probably could have been fine running the country ad infinitum - had they not harbored Bin Laden and his terrorist training camps.

Good thoughts, Adam.

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Bill Glasheen wrote: singular intent of bringing the country under their influence and their idea of a proper religious existence. Those ideals however aren't consistent with most ideals of the civilized in the 21st century.
And yet the Republican Party tenaciously hangs on to these goals as part of its core platform. :wink: :lol:
Sorry, too easy a poke at a stereotype to pass up!
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Glenn

Ah yes... partisan politics! ;)

I'm a true Jeffersonian in this regard. TJ wanted to be known for 3 things (on his tombstone), and being president wasn't one of them. He considered his Virginia Statue for Religious Freedom one of his greatest accomplishments. It served as a foundation for part of The Constitution.
.... Be it enacted by General Assembly that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of Religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge or affect their civil capacities. ...
Read that statute very, very carefully. Freedom to express your religious beliefs. Freedom from the religious beliefs of others. Live and let live. Respect the beliefs of your fellow man.

BOTH parties have minorities within them that encroach upon the spirit of that statute. If we want to excoriate the "religious right" for demanding the teaching Adam and Eve in biology, then we similarly should rail against the intolerant left for demanding that we expunge society of all religious expression.

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Hey Bill, got a question for you since you have some knowledge of early constitutional history (as well as for anyone else who may know). Several years ago a political geography professor commented that in developing the unique (at that time) plan of geographical representation laid out in the constitution, its authors were hoping, among other things, to prevent the formation of political parties in the U.S. I haven't heard/seen that anywhere else, and if that was a goal then clearly they failed at that one. Have you ever come across anything in your readings on this being a goal of theirs?
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Your friend is right. This is from History.com
Early Nonpartisanship.

The framers of the Constitution of the United States made no provision in the governmental structure for the functioning of political parties because they believed that parties were a source of corruption and an impediment to the freedom of people to judge issues on their merits. James Madison argued in his “Federalist Paper #10” against a system in which “factions” (his word for parties) might be able to seize control of the government (see Federalist, The). George Washington, in accordance with the thinking of his fellow Founding Fathers, included in his cabinet men of diverse political philosophies and policies.
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Bill Glasheen wrote:intolerant left for demanding that we expunge society of all religious expression.
Who is trying to legislate an expunging of religious expression? Certainly some individuals on the left try to expunge all religious expression (complaining about merry christmas at stores or what have you), just as some on the right try to convert others to their religious beliefs. Are you referring to things like taking down the 10 commandments from state buildings?
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We were just discussing an M.C. Escher print on Van's forum, Justin.

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Using that as metaphor... There's always a point in-between fish and fowl where bright minds will disagree. However... When you can't even say Merry Christmas at work for fear you might offend someone and they will report you, that is intolerance. When one religious (or non-religious) group gets preferential treatment on the "being offended" thing, that is intolerance.

It's all about being a reasonable human, Justin. Accept and embrace the diversity. Live a little, laugh a little, and love a little. Walk around with at least a half-empty cup. Agree to disagree. It's not so hard, really.

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I'm not a religious person at all, but I generally don't mind all the religious expression around me in various contexts...with the exception of when the muzak at work mysteriously changes channel to southern revival Gospel. The singing and clapping are okay, more energetically motivating than easy listening most of the time, but if I want to be preached to at work I'll call my boss and tell him the project won't be done on time. :D
The funny thing is, I know the person who controls the muzak settings and she does not change it to that, it appears to do so all on its own, and then she has to change it back...must be some spiritual ghosts in this building. 8O
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Thanks for the non-partisanship find Bill.
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Bill Glasheen wrote:When you can't even say Merry Christmas at work for fear you might offend someone and they will report you, that is intolerance.
Maybe you misunderstood. I agree that getting upset about being wished a Merry Christmas is just plain stupid. If it's company policy to say Merry Christmas then that I could see as discriminatory, but otherwise yeah, it's senseless.
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