Talk about Tae Kwon Do
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roadrunner
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I am a Green Belt in Tae Kwon Do and I really like it. Please Post some stuff about how you feel about Tae Kwon Do.
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Bill Glasheen
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Before I post anything, I'd like to know a little more about you. How old are you? What other sports or physical activities have you done?
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Might also be helpful to know WHY you like TKD and what your objectives are in the martial arts...
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Allen M.
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Thumbs up roadrunner, Tae Kwon Do kicks ass!
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Allen Moulton from Uechi-ryu Etcetera
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Allen Moulton from Uechi-ryu Etcetera
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I used to be in TaeKwonDo, but I practice karate now, as I found karate fit me more than TaeKwonDo in many ways.
Ask a general question, get a general answer.
Adam
Ask a general question, get a general answer.
Adam
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Allen M.
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Let's see if Bill and Ian can tune the roadrunner in, Adam.
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Allen Moulton from Uechi-ryu Etcetera
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Allen Moulton from Uechi-ryu Etcetera
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Stryke
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Tkd an awesome kicking art (DUCK FOR COVER )
personally my perspectives from fighting them in tournaments , I wish theyed keep those feet on the ground , there nasty and sometimes very painfull , but i have no problem when they fall over when it goes wrong .....
Tounge in cheek
Stryke
)personally my perspectives from fighting them in tournaments , I wish theyed keep those feet on the ground , there nasty and sometimes very painfull , but i have no problem when they fall over when it goes wrong .....
Tounge in cheek
Stryke
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by roadrunner:
I am a Green Belt in Tae Kwon Do and I really like it. Please Post some stuff about how you feel about Tae Kwon Do.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
One of my closest friends studies Tae Kwon Do and has been involved in many of our Uechi open Tournaments, we respect each other as Martial Artist and his particular club is strong. I can not comment on a particular style as each is only as good as the "families" in it. (Dojos or whatever each style chooses to name its sections) ALL styles have disfunctional "families" and all styles have good students and instructors that ensure a functional "family". Study hard and help keep yourself and "family" strong.
I am a Green Belt in Tae Kwon Do and I really like it. Please Post some stuff about how you feel about Tae Kwon Do.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
One of my closest friends studies Tae Kwon Do and has been involved in many of our Uechi open Tournaments, we respect each other as Martial Artist and his particular club is strong. I can not comment on a particular style as each is only as good as the "families" in it. (Dojos or whatever each style chooses to name its sections) ALL styles have disfunctional "families" and all styles have good students and instructors that ensure a functional "family". Study hard and help keep yourself and "family" strong.
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Colin 8 of 8
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I found TKD to militaristic.
Colin 8 of 8
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My name is Colin 8 of 8, I am very much alive, and intend to stay that way.
Colin 8 of 8
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My name is Colin 8 of 8, I am very much alive, and intend to stay that way.
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My TKD experiences:
I've been to two TKD dojos, both in the setting of dating a student
once in high school, once in medical school.
The one in high school was a commercial enterprise first and foremost. I swear the instructor widened his eyes and thought to himself, "chi-ching!" ($) when he saw me and immediately started asking about my finances. I enjoyed my free trial lesson and excused myself.
Interestingly, the student, who was a blackbelt there, used to frequently get sick of, for instance, my tickling, and square off in their stance and kiai as a challenge. Untrained in any martial art, I sorta ducked and covered, lifted a knee and charged to within kicking distance. I was immediately back into tickling range and free to land my techniques at will
The second time was at UVA. The club there once sent some students to a Uechi sponsored tournie, and these two students sought to stir up trouble. They succeeded in breaking the jaw of a myo sim (a korean art indigenous to UVA and several other locations) participant.
A few years later some of the TKD students bragged that they took in a new student and had him spar padless on his first night, sent him home with a bruised cheek and ribs and a black eye, and he never came back, which was a source of pride for them. When I actually went to the club a few years after that, they were a much more chilled out group that was enthusiastic, vibrant and very social outside of class. I was a bit jealous of this, and chalked some of it up to the ease of advertising TKD compared to uechi ryu, which no one in VA knows about. But there were a few signs that TKD and I would not get along super well:
The instructors and the students dreaded every second spent learning kata. Few remembered the sequence well and they were always thinking about what was next, and remarking that the forms had no utility in sparring and contained only unrealistic blocks and techniques they never wanted to use.
The instructor chided me for jabbing too hard. He brought the pad around while we were practicing jabs and reverse punches and while he had no problem with my speed, he told me the jab is only to "touch" the opponent, not to actually penetrate or hurt.
Everyone I sparred left very pi$$ed off about their sore shins from kicking my elbows. Positioning them and dropping them on kicks was a reflex I could not control.
Everyone I sparred, I could hit in the face at will, usually 3-4 times in a flurry. The club didn't allow punching at the head and only scored a punch to the body if it knocked the foe backwards, so everyone felt I was cheating by using punches since they never had learned to deal with them from peers.
I didn't do well using sidekicks to stop a charging bag in one drill. They were starting too close for that technique to work, I felt, but I had good success with elbows and knees until I was told to stop
I found that, trained in Uechi Ryu, if I sorta ducked and covered, lifted one knee and charged to within kicking range, I could land my techniques at will--but they weren't tickles anymore. The phrase, "Get off of me!" was heard more than once.
NONE of this applies to other TKD dojangs, unless the same holds there too; this is just my experience at one, and I was sparring with people with a lot less training time in than me. I remember students wanted their instructor to spar me, and we looked at each other warily, me thinking "this guy'll probably break my ribs or my skull with a high kick" and him probably thinking, "this guy's gonna charge me, pummel me and dump me on the floor," and neither of us felt like it.
What I found eventually with the second date in TKD was that he didn't care if knees or elbows worked better or striking the head or back made sense, the point was that some people liked the sparring challenge tkd presents and some people liked the Uechi-ryu goods. Most of the people there weren't at all training for a street fight and had no desire to. They were all thrilled to be at class three nights a week. Some students asked to see my kata and after they saw them, thought they were interesting but kept asking why I bothered to do them. And I'll sure many of the Uechi classes I've been too were insufficiently aerobic and too form based for a lot of the TKDers. So what I feel about TKD is that everyone should do the MA they love, everyone's purpose at class being different, and for me that means Uechi instead of TKD, and for others, the opposite.
Differnt strokes fer differnt folks.
I've been to two TKD dojos, both in the setting of dating a student
once in high school, once in medical school. The one in high school was a commercial enterprise first and foremost. I swear the instructor widened his eyes and thought to himself, "chi-ching!" ($) when he saw me and immediately started asking about my finances. I enjoyed my free trial lesson and excused myself.
Interestingly, the student, who was a blackbelt there, used to frequently get sick of, for instance, my tickling, and square off in their stance and kiai as a challenge. Untrained in any martial art, I sorta ducked and covered, lifted a knee and charged to within kicking distance. I was immediately back into tickling range and free to land my techniques at will
The second time was at UVA. The club there once sent some students to a Uechi sponsored tournie, and these two students sought to stir up trouble. They succeeded in breaking the jaw of a myo sim (a korean art indigenous to UVA and several other locations) participant.
A few years later some of the TKD students bragged that they took in a new student and had him spar padless on his first night, sent him home with a bruised cheek and ribs and a black eye, and he never came back, which was a source of pride for them. When I actually went to the club a few years after that, they were a much more chilled out group that was enthusiastic, vibrant and very social outside of class. I was a bit jealous of this, and chalked some of it up to the ease of advertising TKD compared to uechi ryu, which no one in VA knows about. But there were a few signs that TKD and I would not get along super well:
The instructors and the students dreaded every second spent learning kata. Few remembered the sequence well and they were always thinking about what was next, and remarking that the forms had no utility in sparring and contained only unrealistic blocks and techniques they never wanted to use.
The instructor chided me for jabbing too hard. He brought the pad around while we were practicing jabs and reverse punches and while he had no problem with my speed, he told me the jab is only to "touch" the opponent, not to actually penetrate or hurt.
Everyone I sparred left very pi$$ed off about their sore shins from kicking my elbows. Positioning them and dropping them on kicks was a reflex I could not control.
Everyone I sparred, I could hit in the face at will, usually 3-4 times in a flurry. The club didn't allow punching at the head and only scored a punch to the body if it knocked the foe backwards, so everyone felt I was cheating by using punches since they never had learned to deal with them from peers.
I didn't do well using sidekicks to stop a charging bag in one drill. They were starting too close for that technique to work, I felt, but I had good success with elbows and knees until I was told to stop
I found that, trained in Uechi Ryu, if I sorta ducked and covered, lifted one knee and charged to within kicking range, I could land my techniques at will--but they weren't tickles anymore. The phrase, "Get off of me!" was heard more than once.
NONE of this applies to other TKD dojangs, unless the same holds there too; this is just my experience at one, and I was sparring with people with a lot less training time in than me. I remember students wanted their instructor to spar me, and we looked at each other warily, me thinking "this guy'll probably break my ribs or my skull with a high kick" and him probably thinking, "this guy's gonna charge me, pummel me and dump me on the floor," and neither of us felt like it.
What I found eventually with the second date in TKD was that he didn't care if knees or elbows worked better or striking the head or back made sense, the point was that some people liked the sparring challenge tkd presents and some people liked the Uechi-ryu goods. Most of the people there weren't at all training for a street fight and had no desire to. They were all thrilled to be at class three nights a week. Some students asked to see my kata and after they saw them, thought they were interesting but kept asking why I bothered to do them. And I'll sure many of the Uechi classes I've been too were insufficiently aerobic and too form based for a lot of the TKDers. So what I feel about TKD is that everyone should do the MA they love, everyone's purpose at class being different, and for me that means Uechi instead of TKD, and for others, the opposite.
Differnt strokes fer differnt folks.
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Of all the styles I have seen and fought against in my time in the MA, the style that seems to have the widest range in "quality" has been TKD.
When I've visited a Goju-ryu school, or Isshin-ryu or Shorin-ryu or Shotokan, the level of those who have achieved Dan rank, particularly higher Dan levels (say yondan and above) have been reasonably uniform (with some notable exceptions).
In TKD schools, I have found the quality all over the board.
At one school, I witnessed a 6th Dan MISS the board on a back kick (not even a spinning back kick) no fewer than THREE TIMES - once hitting the finger of the guy holding the board and drawing blood! And the board was being held at BELT HEIGHT!!
At another, I saw a brown belt (actually red in their style) walk into a tournament and beat the daylights out of a dozen nationally ranked competitors and get bawled out by his Sensei for poor form! (anyone remember the Golden Greek, whose name I can't remember for the life of me, who competed around the early 70's?)
I have seen 7th Dans who have little concept of anything beyond jumping kicks to 2nd Dans with nearly flawless hyung.
Considering that Tae Kwon Do is the national sport of South Korea, I guess that such lack of quality control is possible. One can be top rated in the minors and never get off the bench if moved to the majors...
Just my 2 cent's worth,
Lee Darrow, C.Ht. (Sandan, ret. sort of)
When I've visited a Goju-ryu school, or Isshin-ryu or Shorin-ryu or Shotokan, the level of those who have achieved Dan rank, particularly higher Dan levels (say yondan and above) have been reasonably uniform (with some notable exceptions).
In TKD schools, I have found the quality all over the board.
At one school, I witnessed a 6th Dan MISS the board on a back kick (not even a spinning back kick) no fewer than THREE TIMES - once hitting the finger of the guy holding the board and drawing blood! And the board was being held at BELT HEIGHT!!
At another, I saw a brown belt (actually red in their style) walk into a tournament and beat the daylights out of a dozen nationally ranked competitors and get bawled out by his Sensei for poor form! (anyone remember the Golden Greek, whose name I can't remember for the life of me, who competed around the early 70's?)
I have seen 7th Dans who have little concept of anything beyond jumping kicks to 2nd Dans with nearly flawless hyung.
Considering that Tae Kwon Do is the national sport of South Korea, I guess that such lack of quality control is possible. One can be top rated in the minors and never get off the bench if moved to the majors...
Just my 2 cent's worth,
Lee Darrow, C.Ht. (Sandan, ret. sort of)
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roadrunner
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i really like toae kwon do and i like the forms and easyness of. Please talk more about it.
I would like to lnow more
I would like to lnow more
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roadrunner
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My Instructor or Sa Ba Nim is not like the 7th dan or who ever that guy was talking about he seems to be real nice and likes the sport and he seems to be really trained he is a 5th dan with the WBBB world black belt burea
he really knows what he is doing.
he really knows what he is doing.
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Allen M.
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Good karate is good karate anywhere.
Which set of Taekwondo poomse are you doing, roadrunner? Which one are you doing now? Which one do you like best? Which part of class do you like best? The least?
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Allen Moulton from Uechi-ryu Etcetera
Which set of Taekwondo poomse are you doing, roadrunner? Which one are you doing now? Which one do you like best? Which part of class do you like best? The least?
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Allen Moulton from Uechi-ryu Etcetera
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Well said, Mr. Darrow.
TKD is so diversified it's bascially not one art. Some fight full contact olympic style and are basically professional athletes that scared the daylights out of people at tournaments. Others are daycare centers and fight no contact. Some practice the art soley for self defense, some soley for touranment fighting, and the new bread of TKDers; tricksters (check some video clips at [url=http://www.bilang.com).]http://www.bilang.com).[/url]
Depends one what you're in to.
TKD is so diversified it's bascially not one art. Some fight full contact olympic style and are basically professional athletes that scared the daylights out of people at tournaments. Others are daycare centers and fight no contact. Some practice the art soley for self defense, some soley for touranment fighting, and the new bread of TKDers; tricksters (check some video clips at [url=http://www.bilang.com).]http://www.bilang.com).[/url]
Depends one what you're in to.
