tai chi masters

Aaaargh · Post by **Aaaargh** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:17 pm

http://www.judoinfo.com/images/video/me ... asters.mov

Finally, some combat tai chi. I guess that stuff really does have self defense value.

JimHawkins · Post by **JimHawkins** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:51 am

Looks like a night of the living dead drill..

Here's some waaaaay cooler TC...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPTyXQarsKw&NR

fivedragons · Post by **fivedragons** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:57 am

The internet is the worst place to learn about tai chi. My Uechi teacher was really down on tai chi. I don't see how anyone could possibly have anything to say about it, unless they actually studied it.

I guess if you read something on the internet, it must be true.

Just imagine what I could post, about all the arts that I don't know anything about.

Bullshit artists reign supreme.

Internet fu.

Yay.

AAAhmed46 · Post by **AAAhmed46** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:00 am

There are Taiji guys in san shou competitions.

Yeah sanda usually dominates, but if Taiji shows up so often, there must be something good about it.

fivedragons · Post by **fivedragons** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:06 am

karate *****.

fivedragons · Post by **fivedragons** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:07 am

Aikido *****

fivedragons · Post by **fivedragons** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:10 am

Martial arts *****.

the samurai sucked.

everything *****.

sucky ****** ****** *****.

fivedragons · Post by **fivedragons** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:35 am

This *****.

benzocaine · Post by **benzocaine** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:11 am

f.Channell · Post by **f.Channell** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:57 pm

When a vacuum is working it *****.

Does it ****** when it's broken?

I did a Tai chi class once, can I comment on it?

Because I did it once, you can probably guess the rest.

F.

JimHawkins · Post by **JimHawkins** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:34 pm

f.Channell wrote: I did a Tai chi class once, can I comment on it?

Because I did it once, you can probably guess the rest.

F.

Sure, but what were expecting to get out of it?

I mean most TC schools don't even do push hands so your left with that nice, slow, form work.. <yawn>

When I was teaching at a school down the block there was a TC class after me.. The Sifu asked me if I wanted to stay and I said okay... He told me I'd have to go through the form with the class though, if I wanted to stay.. I said, no thanks... The idea of learning more forms just bores the hell out of me.. Now if I thought there was really something to learn from the class and the teacher, well, that would be a different story..

AAAhmed46 · Post by **AAAhmed46** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:23 pm

Like i said, there are taiji schools that fight in san shou and get fairly good respect, hell on BULLSHIDO there is a review for a tai chi school that actually had thumbs up.

And bullshido is VERY unforgiving.

JimHawkins · Post by **JimHawkins** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:41 am

Sure Adam but what percentage is that? 0.1%? The
Tai Chi class that went on after my class didn't even do push hands because the owner of the building was worried about insurance issues...

And I would be interested to see if the methods those schools use jive with the forms... Like most styles there are only a handful who know what they are doing--in terms of how the style was meant to work, and then only a handful out of those who really train to apply it.. Hell even many Chinese I talk to think TC is for health...and don't even realize it was one of the most respected combative styles in olden times in China...

AAAhmed46 · Post by **AAAhmed46** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:28 am

You know what i dont understand?

Hsing i, though it uses circular power generation, uses push hands.

Considering the nature of the style, isnt that kind of pointless?

Though i hear alot of Xing yi schools spar too, compared to taiji.

And there is more full contact Taiji then you think, more then 0.1%

If there was so little combat Taiji, we wouldnt see them in san shou.

JimHawkins · Post by **JimHawkins** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:40 am

AAAhmed46 wrote: You know what i dont understand?

Hsing i, though it uses circular power generation, uses push hands.

Considering the nature of the style, isnt that kind of pointless?

Push hands starts off with a lot of circular/rotational mechanics so, no, not surprising, but Hsing-I is supposed to be the more linear of the internal systems, more like Wing Chun, in some of the moves, but I think Push Hands gets a lot more varied later.. Wing Chun Chi Sao starts off the opposite--very linear but then later starts adding some body rotation--but all three of the "internal" systems are said to have come from one whole.

AAAhmed46 wrote: Though i hear alot of Xing yi schools spar too, compared to taiji.

And it depends how you spar and how you train.. Some schools, of all styles, spar with all kinds of strange rules and then just because they "spar", well it don't mean schit..

AAAhmed46 wrote: And there is more full contact Taiji then you think, more then 0.1%
If there was so little combat Taiji, we wouldnt see them in san shou.

Well I have no idea of the exact number... But just because you see some TC folks in full-contact--if it even is, doesn't mean anything either because for every TC school that does full-contact I'll show you a hundred that chant and burn incense instead of doing any contact training..