Seisan Bunkai takedown???

[RACastanet]

Repeat after me.... Ukemi is a core competency. Ukemi is a core competency...

As I have noted before, ukemi is a mandatory training requirement of everynew Marine, enlisted or commisioned.

Here is one of my favorite photos, taken about 1 August of last summer:




The class sizes are about 250 Marines so no one gets a mat. From day one you use the space you happen to be standing on.

There is a push to add more stretching as well, though there still needs to be a greater emphasis on it in my opinion.




Rich

[M J Brelsford]

To aid Bills Crusade…

A memory from Futenma dojo…

I bet few knew that Kanei was VERY big on how to fall.

Many a time I watched him as he showed folks his view on how to survive being taken off ones feet. So if folks don’t think it’s “a part” of Uechi, nobody ever informed Kanei of that fact.

He also followed up with the fact that once one was on the old backside, to get up as quick as you got there... and not stay there and enjoy the view!

Mark

[mhosea]

The ukemi skills are very clear in Dollar's and Gushi's DVDs, but there is no mention of it, no instruction. It just seems to be assumed, like algebra skill in calculus class.

[Bill Glasheen]

Indeed, Mike.

The problem of "assuming" something is that most folks practice for the test.

Ukemi is like kotekitae and Sanchin. You can't just walk through it and "know" it. It's something you must practice on a regular basis.

Imagine David Ortiz saying he has batting figured out, and so doesn't need to practice or demonstrate it any more. Same for Daisuke Matsuzaka and his pitching prowess. Both of them have legendary work ethics. That's why they can do what they do. And their coaches get plenty of opportunities to observe and evaluate.

- Bill

[spitkick]

Having Taught Kyuktoogi in Korea, it is interesting to see the different aspects of it performed. KTG is open to anything, I taught mostly striking and off-balancing, while other instructors worked joint locks and so on. Although this particular video was not KTG, it was Yu Sol, a budding system in Korea.

While the school sign (windows are commonly used) says kickboxing, there certainly was more groundwork being attempted.

This was a National Gong Kwon Mool Sool (martial art) tourny; it was not an in house competition, this is easily seen by the different uniforms. Each school has a distinct brand and logo. Likely an inter-association event; probably local as it was in the dojang not a rented venue.

There is no wooden floor there, common Korean style heated floor on concrete (very little wood used, especially in commercial buildings.)

FWIW...

[MikeK]

Thanks for the info Spitkick. I was wondering if that was an inter school match then a real competition must be incredible.

[spitkick]

I have a lot of video of these sort of events, local, mostly out of Busan where I lived.

The only thing I will say negatively about all this sort of event is the safety issue. There just aren't many rules or guidelines that are adhered to.

As well with rules so lax and with so many systems floating around (many made up from ones background and military training); you don't see the really talented competitors get the exposure. There is a lot of hidden talent in the small, market, third story building dojang, sadly most are confined to their group and don't get a chance to shine...as many want to do.

I trained with master Kim Jon Hyun (not throwing names around...no one likely heard of him ); I have him on video doing backflip somersaults, kicking the target of a guy standing on a chair....something he routinely did without thought. He is young and wanted to develop his English ability, his dream was to set up in the US and teach.

He now sells meat on a stick at Bugeon market in downtown Busan....

[MikeK]

That's too bad. I know of a lot of guys that should be selling meat on a stick.

[Stryke]

It was a great clip , good to see , thanks Mike

I hope the cant do it mentality fades ......

[Stryke]

Well I thought I`d drop a littel Zen on ya .... sort of sums it up for me

you know how us martial arts geeks are

If you want to find something , first you`ve got to stop looking

[Bill Glasheen]

I appreciate the extra info, Spitkick. I based what I said on about 10 pages of general comments (on the site) as well as statements made by MadMonk108 who posted the video.

That's not a demo. It's a competition. {snip} It's a video of a school tournament.

Some clarification obviously was appropriate.

I first did aikido on a shag carpet over a concrete floor. Ouch!!! I hear you on the nature of the environment. A lot of good martial arts gets practiced in some rough conditions away from mainstream and first class facilities.

The floor is something I'd personally have to check out. The competitors obviously had no problem going down on it. It had some give. But how much one can only know by getting on it and feeling it.

- Bill

[spitkick]

The floor is something I'd personally have to check out. The competitors obviously had no problem going down on it. It had some give. But how much one can only know by getting on it and feeling it.- Bill

This type of floor is used from commercial to residential; it is vinyl about 1/8 - 1/4 inch thick; with a thin cushion underneath it. You are right that there is a bit of give to it, it also feels great after coming in on a cold day as Korean buildings have in-floor heating.

Shoes are not worn on these floors, just socks/bare feet/slippers.

[jorvik]

I've always wondered about Korean martial arts ..............to me they seem to be a mix pf Japanese arts even the names yudo, Kuhmdo etc..........I did Kuk Sul Won, and though the standard was very high..I always felt it was a mcdojang
my old instructor is the guy with the red braiding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-3yiEIsqxk

extremly talented guy.if my hip hadn't gone bad I'd still be doing that