My new neighbour: a dangerous felon. Help!

[jorvik]

It all depends very much on the circumstances you find yourself in...in my newspaper today there is the tale of Radovan Karadzic, a purported mass murderer who has just been arrested after 13 years on the run his only disguise was to grow a beard and wear glasses, he still drank in a pub which had his picture hanging on the wall. So the police aren't that good at tracking people down

[Bill Glasheen]

Bill
you are the one who brought up Churchill and Iraq ( both of which were irrelevant to the discussion).

You said...

Would that work in Canada though?.it sure as heck wouldn't work in the UK.

"That" would be my recommendation to rally a neighborhood together to stand up to thugs and thuggery. I responded with quotes from Winston Churchill - a Brit well known for facing down Hitler when the rest of Europe wanted to appease him. Hitler was quite the thug, wasn't he? Churchill proved that residents of the UK could rally around a leader. France proved that appeasement can lead to perfectly horrible results.

Let me repeat... Residents of the UK can rally around a leader, and face down a thug. History shows it.

That is relevant to the conversation. At least one party in the thread got that. You choose not to acknowledge the obvious, for reasons that only you know. That is your prerogative.

Also, YOU were the first to bring up Iraq. And Afghanistan. And Somalia.

Churchill has been dead half a century ..but by the logic you use Bill there shouldn't be any problems in Iraq, Afghanistan..Maybe you'd like to take a trip to Somalia and stand up for your rights over there.

Maybe you should just cut to the chase and declare up front that you want to disagree with me.

- Bill

[Bruise Lee]

Great!

We bought in a desirable, albiet colourful little neighbourhood.

Our street is 100+ years old with both single and mutltiple family dwellings. Many are owner occupied. All in all it's been very peaceful in a pleasant, treelined-bullevard sort of way.

However, suddenly I find myself surrounded by people I suspect are crack heads and heroine adicts.

The house right next door seems to have turned into a flop house, and there appears to be a drug dealer living across the street.

This morning, around 7 AM, I noticed what looked like a drug deal going down across the street.

One of my neighbours had aready called the police who later explained that several of my new neighbours were known to them.

The police consider one of them to be particularly dangerous.

Apparently a near-by neighbourhood had recently been 'cleaned up' and all the undesireables have chosen to move in around me.

Call us when you need us -- other than that the police really didn't have any advice.

Hence this thread - I'm turning to my friends in the Uechi Community for a little help -- what do you think I should do? What would you do?

I had a similar situation for years. However mine was a minor - and I am not sure how he skated on so many arrests. My neiighbor had video footage of him making many deals, of his mother watching deals from the doorway, of him receiving a delivery from his supplier etc. I watched as the police went through his house with a dog and arrested him. He had several arrests for violence and one that involved a weapon. Yet he never spent more than a weekend in jail. I can access one of his arrests online through the county government website but cannot tell what the outcome was as he was a minor.

Finally he moved.

. We physically fought once and I choked him unconscious. Our neighborhood homes have fluctuated in value from about $300K per home to $450 per home. Nice neighborhood.

I feel for ya

[jorvik]

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"Let me repeat... Residents of the UK can rally around a leader, and face down a thug. History shows it. "

That's nonsence, because if that was the case it wouldn't just apply to the UK it would apply everywhere in the world.So Everyone would rise up agaisnst dictators etc.there would be no mugabes or hitlers.or for that matter bliars.but it's a little more insidious than that our values ( and yours ) are stolen behind our backs, things change against our will.nobody in the UK wants to be in the EEC but we are denied a vote, nobody wants mass immigration or for immigrants to have more rights than the natives .but this is all happening..and everybody wants criminals punished, but how do you do it?.....there are no leaders.bliar wasn't leader he was a self serving user, a champagne socialist who made sure he feathered his own nest.and look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4axRYJymHI&NR=1

did you vote for this Bill?....it's really a rehtorical question, point I'm making is that you can change very little on your own

[Bill Glasheen]

point I'm making is that you can change very little on your own

I couldn't disagree more. But to the degree there are limits, "Better to light a candle than curse the darkness."

Much of the rest of your post is about you not liking the party in power, or what they choose to accomplish. That's a democracy, baby. You're protected to some extent by a constitution, but beyond that it's majority rule.

- Bill

[Bill Glasheen]

point I'm making is that you can change very little on your own

The point you continually miss here, Ray, is leadership. No, you can't do anything by yourself. But you can take able-bodied people with myriad talents who have skin in the game, and build a team. Leadership is a force multiplier the way a pressure point is a force multiplier. The right person with the right charisma leading the right people can accomplish a lot.

If you don't have it, Ray, you don't have it. But you can support those who do. That works.

- Bill

[cxt]

Jorvik

"everyone would rise up against dictators"

Not exactly, the capacity to do so is different from the will or real desire to do so.
The former is almost always possible........the latter?.....it depends.

If "nobody wants to be in the EU" you can always vote the sobs out--mass peaceful protests, mass shut downs of all business, offices, transport etc.

If "nobody" really wanted it then it would not happen.

It might be more accurate to say that "some people" want it and the rest of the people either don't care, can't convience enough people they are right, or can't get the support to vote people out---a very differnent thing.

In the USA the voters overwhelming support certain issues ---but few elected reps seem to be listening---they get away with it because people won't vote them out--not because they can't.

They prefer to stick with their "party" than demand their representatives to actually represent their needs.

Again, its not a case of can't its a case of won't.

[JimHawkins]

Jorvik

"everyone would rise up against dictators"

Not exactly, the capacity to do so is different from the will or real desire to do so.
The former is almost always possible........the latter?.....it depends.

If "nobody wants to be in the EU" you can always vote the sobs out--mass peaceful protests, mass shut downs of all business, offices, transport etc.

If "nobody" really wanted it then it would not happen.

It might be more accurate to say that "some people" want it and the rest of the people either don't care, can't convience enough people they are right, or can't get the support to vote people out---a very differnent thing.

In the USA the voters overwhelming support certain issues ---but few elected reps seem to be listening---they get away with it because people won't vote them out--not because they can't.

They prefer to stick with their "party" than demand their representatives to actually represent their needs.

Again, its not a case of can't its a case of won't.

I don't recall anyone asking folks if they wanted this Union? Was there a vote? Do you really think those pulling the strings care what Ray (or folks like him) wants?

Who's vision is being implemented?

Did anyone ask anyone here if they wanted a Canadian, Mexican and American Union? An Amero? According to reliable sources it's coming--and with no Congressional oversight...

Nope it ain't here yet but when it comes I'll be asking the same questions...

[MikeK]

Here's to the new boss...
Same as the old boss...

[Jason Rees]

Amen, Mike.

I'm still learning to put aside the things I can't influence, and stop getting worked up about them. Meanwhile, I figure out what I can change, and come up with solutions, and ways to enact those solutions.

Complaining on a forum just leads to a neverending loop that gets no one anywhere.

It sounds like the situation in Great Britain is intolerable. I don't know what I would do in that situation, but then I don't live there. If I couldn't find a solution, I'd probably leave. Migration is always an option.

[Chris McKaskell]

It's an old neighbourhood, not likely to be reproduced:

http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/Opinion/Col ... 04621.html

With a strong, independant merchants' association and community networks:

http://www.wortleyvillage.com/

Enroute Magazine did a survey of Canada's coolest neighbourhoods and it ranked in the top ten:

http://www.enroutemag.com/e/archives/ap ... ves01.html

Colourful? Mais Oui!

If we can just keep the felons, crack heads and yah-hoos moving along it'll be a wonderful place to live!

[cxt]

Jim

Actually none of that is really in context with what I responding too....but ok

He has a representative governement---if enough people wanted them out and their policies rendered null and void---then it would be made so....clearly not enough people are willing to stop it---or they would rather make sure that "their" party is in power more than they care about the possible negatives.

A tragic situation that we have an overabundence of.

Couple of nations have refused to pass such referendums---or seriously altered the content...so it can be done.

IMO its not a case of can't--its a case of won't.

As to your concerns for the USA, I share them--but again--will people vote for "their" part and represetative or will they be able to see the bigger picture.

Sadly, I think we going to have to do something like that to be able to meet the growing economic power of the EU----on the othr hand the more burocrats an organization has the slower and less effeicnt it becomes---the EU might well go belly up under its own weight.

[jorvik]

CXT
Jim was pretty much on the ball with his comments. Nobody in the UK voted for the EEC.we voted about 30 years ago for further trade agreements then called the "Common Market", and that was all ....since then we have had "Fuzzy" borders and unchecked immigration and movement towards a common currencey, the Euro ( any of that sound familiar ). Recently we had the Lisbon treaty and for it to come into force all the countries in Europe had to ratify it...when Eire didn't the treaty should have been dead in the water,,,,,,but still all the countries in Europe, the UK included ratified it george brown who is the prime minister is head of the labour party and they promised at their election to give the people of the UK a vote on Europe.which they have failed to do....so the colossus trundles on and the leaders of Europe in concert, seem to be doing somthing that the people of Europe don't want. The Maastricht treaty was rejected by Dutch and French voters..the lisbon treaty is pretty much the same treaty as that one although shuffled around a bit................. With one currencey, harmonisation of taxes, and open borders you no longer have a national identity.....what happened in Europe is happening now with the US
and the Amero.......I used to scoff at the "New World order" Illuminati stuff that you see on U-Tube and warned about by Fundamentalist Christians .now I'm not too sure....it all seems a bit too close for comfort

[JimHawkins]

Jim was pretty much on the ball with his comments.

Thanks I was beginning to think I was cross posting in my sleep..

Nobody in the UK voted for the EEC.we voted about 30 years ago for further trade agreements then called the "Common Market", and that was all ....since then we have had "Fuzzy" borders and unchecked immigration and movement towards a common currencey, the Euro ( any of that sound familiar ).

Sure does sound familiar but clearly won't matter (or register) in the long run.. The wind is blowing and blowing us all in the same direction.. Only time will tell if the ends will justify the means..

[Valkenar]

Did anyone ask anyone here if they wanted a Canadian, Mexican and American Union? An Amero? According to reliable sources it's coming--and with no Congressional oversight...

What reliable sources? I try to look this up every time someone mentions it and have yet to find anything that indicates this is likely to become a reality. Basically a couple political think-tanks published some theory on the idea, and one Canadian politician advocated it in the 90s without success. Where are you getting the idea that this is "coming" in anytime soon?