Wind Energy-does it really work?
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- PreyingMantis
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What if it became the only other besides solar? Am I asking impossible to answer questions? Or thinking lower on the ground, can a wind turbine centralize the energy and have the ability to send it to others on the flat lands that recieve little or no wind at all? Or would the energy just simply die? Can solar be a partner in the energy transfer to the non-windy areas?
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PreyingMantis wrote:
Am I asking impossible to answer questions?

You ask a lot of questions, lady!
Think of "the grid" we tap our energy from as the bank. Think of ALL sources of energy (wind plants, solar farms, nuclear, coal, hydroelectric) as workers and/or businesses depositing money in that bank.PreyingMantis wrote:
Or thinking lower on the ground, can a wind turbine centralize the energy and have the ability to send it to others on the flat lands that recieve little or no wind at all? Or would the energy just simply die?
Once energy comes from a self-contained power plant like the system I showed from Regenedyne, its power (in the form of electrons) gets loaded to the grid the same way dollars get deposited in the bank. At that point, the grid no longer knows where those electrons came from the same way a bank doesn't particularly know where a fistfull of real dollars came from. It just knows what goes into the grid (a total amount of energy over time) and what gets tapped out of the grid by the customers. Electrons are the common currency in the grid the way dollars are in a business or a bank.
YesPreyingMantis wrote:
Can solar be a partner in the energy transfer to the non-windy areas?
And so can nuclear.
And so can coal-fired power plants.
And so can hydroelectric power (dams).
And so can YOU if you stick some solar panels on your roof, get a two-way meter from your local power company, and produce more power than you consume from the grid. That was made possible by someone who sued a power company because they were occasionally in the unique position of making more of their energy than they were using from the power company, and they wanted to stash it in the grid (for credit).
It's all good.
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That would be like going around your elbow to get from your thumb to your pinkie. Once the power is made, you dump it in the grid. The grid distributes it to where it is needed, from wherever it came from. There is storage capacity SOMEWHERE in the grid if excess is produced at any one point in time.
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Ok now I get it. So again tell me why you think this is not globally possible?
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The way I see it we can fund to have enough "grids" to equally distribute the energy to all over the world with all units communicating 24hours a day. Of course a bill would have to be passed and higher taxes would go into effect, all countries would have to agree, yadayadayada. But.......in return we would be saving massive amounts of unused fossil fuels, less drama with the mideast, money in investment, etc. Everyone can actually be happier, and less war on the stupid things in life. We all freaken live on the same planet so why is it so difficult to be on the same page to achieve the same agenda?
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recycling.../ still creates issue
Not to mention, recycling factories, still harmful for the environment. We are recycling motor oil, but again the factories are still effecting the environment and atmosphere. I may be jumping off the subject a bit, but it does not hurt to think outside of the box a few steps ahead.
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Sometimes I feel the world population thrives off of non- simplicity. Seems we humans need unnecessary things to keep things interesting. Has anyone a clue that we are failing miserably on trying to survive for generations to come? Or are people starting to support the new world life transfer to Mars and the Moon? Education to the population is so scarce on the possible scientific solutions. Why is that?
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Yes and no...
Energy costs money to produce. And the farther you send that energy across a grid, the more it is lost. That's why power is generally a statewide or multi-state affair at most. We could load power up to Canada IF they paid us for it and IF we had extra and IF we didn't care that much of it was lost in the sending.
It's kind of like a hot meal. You can only send it so far before it isn't any good any more.
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Energy costs money to produce. And the farther you send that energy across a grid, the more it is lost. That's why power is generally a statewide or multi-state affair at most. We could load power up to Canada IF they paid us for it and IF we had extra and IF we didn't care that much of it was lost in the sending.
It's kind of like a hot meal. You can only send it so far before it isn't any good any more.
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This generation is very spoiled.PreyingMantis wrote:
Sometimes I feel the world population thrives off of non- simplicity. Seems we humans need unnecessary things to keep things interesting. Has anyone a clue that we are failing miserably on trying to survive for generations to come? Or are people starting to support the new world life transfer to Mars and the Moon? Education to the population is so scarce on the possible scientific solutions. Why is that?
Historically humans - as a species - adapt pretty well. However adapting to a dramatic change in environment often takes a LOT of pain and suffering. Most would rather not think about it. And governments today seem to be more about appeasing the population with entitlements instead of inspiring a nation to discover, explore, invent, and sacrifice for the future. Delayed gratification? Forgetaboutit!
As to why we Americans suk so badly at math and science, well... you're asking the wrong person. It was my passion in school and I worked my tail of to get where I got. Meanwhile... the "basket weavers" in college made fun of us "toolies" in the tech side of the university. You know... We were the geeks, and they were learning about what really mattered and how to run the businesses that employ us, and yada, yada, yada.
I'm a rare commodity in that I first took all the distribution requirements for a liberal arts degree. Then and only then did I jump into engineering school, spend some time as a chemist, and then go back to grad school to complete my engineering training. Interestingly enough... In most of the places where I find jobs, I am in the minority as a white male with English as a first language. Most of the highly educated scientists and engineers I run across today are imported from China, Hong Kong, India, etc., etc.
The good news is that they send ME out to give all the talks to our customers. And that ain't bad.

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