Plyometrics

[AE Moores]

Anyone in the New England area that is looking for some Karate specific plyometric training are invited to come up our way. We have a few hundred exercises that we do on a regular basis.

In two months when we are in our new dojo, we will be having a strength and conditioning class that includes plyo's, medicine ball work, core training and body weight training. Basically functional training. All are invited.

Best,
Andrew

[Bill Glasheen]

Best way to learn to hit people though is to hit people .

Yea, I know. It's how I learn to do all those eye pokes and testicular kicks. There are limits in every venue.

But to your point... I actually encourage my students to use "pointy things" lightly on each other when practicing my own bunkai. You can't hit hard, but you can certainly help each other "taste the hot sauce." Even if done slowly and/or lightly, I believe it helps in targeting.

One of the big problems with makiwara is that it encourages people to hit with their fists. There's nothing wrong with that except that folks miss out on using Uechi kata weapons. Conditioning those to be useful is IMO an altogether different proposition.

No one toy or tool out there is the be-all, end-all device.

- Bill

[Bill Glasheen]

Anyone in the New England area that is looking for some Karate specific plyometric training are invited to come up our way.

I've worked out with Andrew and "the gang" before. Those guys know what they are doing. By all means, take the invitation. If nothing else, you'll sweat your buns off.

- Bill

[Stryke]

Yea, I know. It's how I learn to do all those eye pokes and testicular kicks. There are limits in every venue.

actually I let someone eye gouge me about a week ago to show how pointless that myth really is . Theres a neat trick I learnt , close your eye lid tight , and proceed to beat the crap out of them , eye gouges ****** by themselves

and we wear cups and do moderate groin contact .

but your right full power isnt used , but If one cant take the odd full force blow to the chest etc then IMHO theres more important questions to ask .

same with Shokens etc , forget lightly put some padding on if you want and shoken till your face turns blue ....

[AE Moores]

Bill sensei,
You'll love to see the new dojo. 3500 sq. ft of room. Two training floors, plenty of medicine balls etc. It's going to be a great training facility blending the old with the new.

A-

[Bill Glasheen]

The person attacking your eyes probably didn't know what they were doing. We could go on and on about that one... But I certainly wouldn't consider the eyes as an invulnerable area by any stretch of the imagination.

As for the padding and shokens, well... I think it misses the point. (Bad pun, I know...) If you are intent on flailing, don't throw a shoken. It's a specific tool for a specific job. The place to put it on the body will be obvious, or you shouldn't use it.

And shokens aren't just about poking things. It's a grab as well. And those grabs are things which are easy to practice.

- Bill

[Bill Glasheen]

Sounds like fun, Andrew. You guys have some good stuff going on there. I'll have to come on by and stea... I mean see what you're up to.

- Bill

[gmattson]

Congratulations on the new dojo.

I've just uploaded some pictures of my smallish 1200 f2 dojo. Still some work to do and I'll be posting more pictures soon.

How about sharing your work in progress? I'm very interested in how you've designed the interior and I bet many others are as well. Check the "building a successful dojo" forum.

http://forums.uechi-ryu.com/viewtopic.php?t=15666

[Stryke]

the padding was for your benifit Bill , personally I dont use any , and yes theres been a broken rib but thats another story .

as for the eye thing to deadly for training I get it . Ive seen the results and I`ve seen it done , and I`ve never seen it stop a fight . It`ll stop the whimps for sure , some folks are conditioned to act when put under pain though .

Have you ever popped someoens eyeball out ? , or are you relying on storys ?

But I certainly wouldn't consider the eyes as an invulnerable area by any stretch of the imagination.

It`s a question of risk/reward always is , you know as much as anyone that eye gouging and groin striking are held up as the fight stoppers , and it aint the truth . You need interrupt the ability to fight back , I place the groin higher , the eyes can cause a good preconditioned response .....

But I hate well i`d just eye gouge you mentality , it`s martial masterbation .

And shokens aren't just about poking things. It's a grab as well. And those grabs are things which are easy to practice.

absolutley , I l;ike how Laird taught me to form them inside the opponents body , doesnt mean I cant use them as striking weapons too though .... Maybe to the eyeballs KIDDING !!!!

but if you cant strike with em , why teach striking with them ?

or are you arguing cause it`s fun ?

If you are intent on flailing, don't throw a shoken. It's a specific tool for a specific job. The place to put it on the body will be obvious, or you shouldn't use it.

you guys teach block and shoken right ? , is the opponent going to stand still ? , you can gaurantee placement ?

If you cant randomly hit the body with the shoken then I suggest as a strike it`s useless , as a grab different , but it`s taught as a strike too yes ? .

I get the feeling this will be another of those brushed of posts , or maybe I just dont understand .....

[AE Moores]

Mattson sensei,
Good luck with your new dojo. 1200 sq. ft. is perfect for a dojo. Space is limited here and this is what we got. A bit more than what we had originally planned, but we'll take full advantage of the space.

We were supposed to start building this weekend, but my attorney and the landlord's attorney aren't getting along. So hopefully next weekend we will start the work.

I have the blue prints, but not sure how to load them on here. We will be taking pictures as we build. We will be having a "break in the new dojo workout" May 6th. Sensei Fagan and our other Canadian friend's will be joining us for our big day. All are invited.

A-

[AE Moores]

Bill sensei,
You are more than welcome to steal anything we are doing. We are an open book. If you are up this way, please stop by.

Osu,
Andrew

[Bill Glasheen]

Thanks, Andrew. You folks have always been open. I appreciate all that you've shared, and respect the hard work you put in.

- Bill

[Bill Glasheen]

as for the eye thing to deadly for training I get it . Ive seen the results and I`ve seen it done , and I`ve never seen it stop a fight . It`ll stop the whimps for sure , some folks are conditioned to act when put under pain though .

Have you ever popped someoens eyeball out ? , or are you relying on storys ?

I've never thought of eye techniques as fight stoppers, so you aren't going to get any arguments from me. It's a vulnerable area to protect and to exploit - plain and simple.

As for popping an eyeball out, well... It can be done but you have to know what you are doing. And obviously there are limits to how much you can practice that, and where/when it can be used.

These eye techniques need as much psychological as physical training. It's not something most humans can be expected to do. There's quite the natural aversion to attacking someone that intimately and that seriously. There's a time and a place for it but... Not for most people under most circumstances.

As for the Uechi striking (as opposed to grabbing) techniques, well at this stage in my training I prefer the hiraken to the shoken. But every once in a while, its use becomes obvious. For me it's just one of those tools you want in the tool kit just in case you need it.

- Bill

[Stryke]

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damage is certainly a possibility , here we have several seconds of pressure .

but the chance of it stopping someone intent on beating you to death is minimal IMHO

eyes are tough , I feel it`s often the attack on the self thats more disturbing than the physical response .





Me I prefer the Bushiken to the shoken myself , so where on the same page , but I will rain shokens towards the neck/upper chest or something quite merrily if it comes to that , knowing they are safe for such a unspecific task , and it does provoke an interesting response .

didnt Wing Chun originally teach the pheonix eye for chain punching ?

Jim ?

[Stryke]

I wish I could find the clip Of Rick planting his shoken solidly into a makiwara .

and while he doesnt advise it , it shows clearly what is possible .

and they hurt a lot more than a punch , but you Uechi guys dont need selling on that