In the first episode shonie kicked the crap out of Clementi.
Second episode, Dewees beat Ray, though i think Ray changed the tempo of the fight during the last thirty seconds but well.............
Anyway, the quality of the fights is just amazing compared to other seasons.
The ultimate fighter 4 episode 2
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That was cool though.TSDguy wrote:I kind of got that feeling as well, but I think he really just didn't have a choice. And with the amount of blood erupting from his head, even the backstage crew probably had blood in their eyes. He looked like he'd been slaughtering cows all day.
He kept fighting and didnt freak out.
Must have sucked to be under him though, disgusting.
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JimHawkins
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I was shocked they didn't stop it after he poured out so much blood.. And with that blood pouring into the eyes/face/mouth of the opponent, which can transmit blood borne diseases.. I'd have asked for an umbrella.. 
Amazing he pulled that out..
Amazing he pulled that out..
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It just looked messy, but he seemed fine.TSDguy wrote:They'd both been tested. BAD call to stop it quite obviously. Lots of blood but I've bled more than that on more than one occassion in fights... Heads bleed a lot; it's not as bad as it looks. I've panicked myself and on these forums, but you get used to it.
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I'm no ref..
I just wonder how much blood is okay to loose before stoppage and how to measure..
There's just not that much blood in the body to start with. . Hard to guage.. and hard to guage the effect on the other fighter under the leak....
If he'd have taken another elbow in that area the flow could have doubled..
Interesting stuff..
I just wonder how much blood is okay to loose before stoppage and how to measure..
There's just not that much blood in the body to start with. . Hard to guage.. and hard to guage the effect on the other fighter under the leak....
If he'd have taken another elbow in that area the flow could have doubled..
Interesting stuff..
Shaolin
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"Receive what comes, stay with what goes, upon loss of contact attack the line" – The Kuen Kuit
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"Receive what comes, stay with what goes, upon loss of contact attack the line" – The Kuen Kuit
But he was kicking ass.JimHawkins wrote:I'm no ref..
I just wonder how much blood is okay to loose before stoppage and how to measure..
There's just not that much blood in the body to start with. . Hard to guage.. and hard to guage the effect on the other fighter under the leak....
If he'd have taken another elbow in that area the flow could have doubled..
Interesting stuff..
Episode 3:
Damn funny, shonie is losing it!
These are young, well conditioned atheletes with tremendous cardiac reserve and certainly healthy blood counts before the fight. I think it would be virtually impossible to loose a hemodynamically significant amount of blood from a cut during a fight. Either it wouldn't be that much, or it would be sight compromising and the fight would be lost by stoppage(these cuts would all be on the head since that's both the usual target and where one can bleed vigorously due to the amount of flow and the ease of splitting thin skin over bone anyway). Worst case scenario, the fighter losing a ton of blood would tire (happens in tons of fights with no ill effects, right?) and the other fighter would win by KO or submission, at which point the loser would promptly be treated, which would include lying flat, which is enough to correct blood pressure after losing some blood, and having the cut addressed by pressure and their ringside gadgets. I doubt anyone's ever been transfused after a fight like these, and even then, losing a bit of blood and needing a transfusion is lots safer than having Chuck or Rich pound in your head or Hughes stuff your own arm down your throat. The greatest risks would be acute or chronic brain injury and fractures/joint injuries that one can expect from throws, strikes, and locks.
As for the infection risk, lets just say I still wear gloves with patients who are Hep A,B,C and HIV negative. We called it "nonA, nonB hepatitis" when we had no idea what hep C was--ask some of my dying patients if all blood transfusions are benign. There's still "cryptogenic" cirrhosis out there some of which will be shown to be viral, and there are always erroneous test results. The trauma risks exceed the infection risk for sure, but still.
As for the infection risk, lets just say I still wear gloves with patients who are Hep A,B,C and HIV negative. We called it "nonA, nonB hepatitis" when we had no idea what hep C was--ask some of my dying patients if all blood transfusions are benign. There's still "cryptogenic" cirrhosis out there some of which will be shown to be viral, and there are always erroneous test results. The trauma risks exceed the infection risk for sure, but still.
--Ian
And let's not forget the "window" period where one is infected and infectious for several weeks before there are detectable antibodies. Just picture one of those guys pulling a Floyd Landis a couple weeks before the fight and then coming into the ring with acute retroviral syndrome, probably the most infectious they'll ever be. And still testing negative.As for the infection risk, lets just say I still wear gloves with patients who are Hep A,B,C and HIV negative. We called it "nonA, nonB hepatitis" when we had no idea what hep C was--ask some of my dying patients if all blood transfusions are benign. There's still "cryptogenic" cirrhosis out there some of which will be shown to be viral, and there are always erroneous test results. The trauma risks exceed the infection risk for sure, but still.
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